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With the new leaked Eldar characters, my first thought is that this could solve a major problem with Harlequins. That problem is that they are currently limited to to playing with their formations and special detachment. This makes them inflexible and hard to work with. The Imperial characters released in this series are able to be used as HQ choices in any Imperial detachment. If the Eldar versions follow the same trend, then Harlequins will finally get an HQ choice. This would open up the ability to take them in CAD and allied detachments. Finally, there would be some flexibility in list building for them. I have been really wanting to ally in a Shadow Seer in several list ideas, and it may now be possible. This could be especially nice with some DE leadership shenanigans, and veil of tears is always very welcome.

What are your thoughts on this?

I'm definitely of the mind that the Triumvirate of The Eldar will function as the Triumvirate of The Imperium does, so hopefully that does mean Harlequins in a CAD without any annoying taxes and other stupidity! Hurrah!

Aside from an Eldar Freakshow list I've not got any particular combinations in mind, but I will be very glad to finally see Harlequins be viable as part of an army.

Same here, I expect we'll get the same "can be taken as HQ's for any Eldar faction army" treatment. Means my Harlequins may actually get to see some use now.

Not gonna get my hopes up. Eldar and Dark Eldar, probably. However, Harlies are just as likely not to get HQ access "to preserve the flavor of the army" or because "Harlequins only follow one god".

That and they probably dont want too many "easy to get" Shadowseers floating around in Eldar Dark Eldar units. Still likely stuck to an Expensive tax HQ and some glass troops, but almost certainly cheaper than a Masque. (Unless you wanted 4 shadowseers)

And the Avatar is more likely to be a Lord of War, just like Khaine. Leaving the Visarch and Emissary as the only choice, both of which are more likely to just be HQs for CWE & DE.

But it never hurts to hope, so long as you know how to deal with disappointment.

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 TheManWithNoPlan wrote:
I'm definitely of the mind that the Triumvirate of The Eldar will function as the Triumvirate of The Imperium does, so hopefully that does mean Harlequins in a CAD without any annoying taxes and other stupidity! Hurrah!

Aside from an Eldar Freakshow list I've not got any particular combinations in mind, but I will be very glad to finally see Harlequins be viable as part of an army.

Why would you even want them in a CAD? OS sucks for Harlequins because there's simply no way they can hold an objective anyway.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Why would you even want them in a CAD? OS sucks for Harlequins because there's simply no way they can hold an objective anyway.

You don't want OS, you want to not have to take that d@mn Tax-weaver piece of tripe. Being able to use a CAD or Allied detachment means you can take 1-2 Troop, 1-3 Fast and ZERO Heavy supports.
Every Formation for Harlies has a significant tax, either because it requires a Void Weaver, or requires 3 Troupe units minimum. Or restricts some other thing, like only ever getting a Solitaire if you also buy a DJ & SS that cannot join units.
I play Eldar & DE and would love to just take 1 Troupe, and HQ and a Solitaire. Or Take a Troup & HQ to get 1, just 1 unit of Skyweavers.

GW would be quite short sighted it they di not see this and provide Harlies an HQ choice

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Right now, if you want Harlequin ICs in allied units you are looking at 500 points spent before you can even look at adding a character. IF these new units can count as HQs then that cost drops to the new character cost (who you may wanna take anyway) and the price of the troupes.

Just going of the prices of the imperial tri, this would drop the Harlie unit tax 2-300 points. After that, you can add hard to shoot psychic powers, and a shrouded jester to Eldar units for fun

Taking Harlies in a CAD or AD gives you ObSec, but you lose out on Rising Crescendo (the ability to run and charge starting turn 2). In my experience, one of their biggest strengths (but also the biggest challenge to playing them well) is their mobility; without RC you lose that advantage. Not worth it, IMO.

strepp wrote:
Taking Harlies in a CAD or AD gives you ObSec, but you lose out on Rising Crescendo (the ability to run and charge starting turn 2). In my experience, one of their biggest strengths (but also the biggest challenge to playing them well) is their mobility; without RC you lose that advantage. Not worth it, IMO.

If playing Harlequins as a solo army, you are right.

But some of us do not think that Harlies should be a solo army, but a compliment to CWE or DE. It is currently very difficult to do this without a significant commitment to the Harlie portion. Having an HQ would fix that

I just want an HQ slot for Harlequins so I can run them as my primary detachment without 500+ points!! Haha.

 Galef wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Why would you even want them in a CAD? OS sucks for Harlequins because there's simply no way they can hold an objective anyway.

You don't want OS, you want to not have to take that d@mn Tax-weaver piece of tripe. Being able to use a CAD or Allied detachment means you can take 1-2 Troop, 1-3 Fast and ZERO Heavy supports.
Every Formation for Harlies has a significant tax, either because it requires a Void Weaver, or requires 3 Troupe units minimum. Or restricts some other thing, like only ever getting a Solitaire if you also buy a DJ & SS that cannot join units.
I play Eldar & DE and would love to just take 1 Troupe, and HQ and a Solitaire. Or Take a Troup & HQ to get 1, just 1 unit of Skyweavers.

GW would be quite short sighted it they di not see this and provide Harlies an HQ choice

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You're giving up their main advantage in order to save a few points.

Might as well not run them at all.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Might as well not run them at all.

And I don't.
I own converted versions of all 4 characters & 8 regular players. Would love to get some Skyweavers, but there is no way to run them without the Taxweaver or a large investment of other units.
Having an HQ option would allow me to take the units I want, without units I don't. To me, that is worth giving up Rising Crescendo.

Also, I should add a disclaimer that I also play Daemons and regular Harlies are just really expensinve Daemonettes IMO. Sure they come with loads of extra stuff, but they die just as fast.
1 unit with a Shadow Seer or the Spectre is nice. More than that is a liability. Again, just my opinion.

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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Galef wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Why would you even want them in a CAD? OS sucks for Harlequins because there's simply no way they can hold an objective anyway.

You don't want OS, you want to not have to take that d@mn Tax-weaver piece of tripe. Being able to use a CAD or Allied detachment means you can take 1-2 Troop, 1-3 Fast and ZERO Heavy supports.
Every Formation for Harlies has a significant tax, either because it requires a Void Weaver, or requires 3 Troupe units minimum. Or restricts some other thing, like only ever getting a Solitaire if you also buy a DJ & SS that cannot join units.
I play Eldar & DE and would love to just take 1 Troupe, and HQ and a Solitaire. Or Take a Troup & HQ to get 1, just 1 unit of Skyweavers.

GW would be quite short sighted it they di not see this and provide Harlies an HQ choice

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You're giving up their main advantage in order to save a few points.

Might as well not run them at all.

They have some very interesting abilities in their shadowseers and death jesters, so putting a couple of those in an army is nice, just for the support/sillyness, but having to pay 500 points of tax to do that sucks