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+++ Small Ultra (Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition v2019) (1250pts) +++

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Space Marines: Codex (2015) v2017) (1250pts) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

········Chapter Tactics [Ultramarines]

+ HQ (170pts) +

········Librarian (85pts) [Psyker Level 1]
············Librarius Armour [Bolt Pistol, Force Stave, Space Marine Bike]

········Librarian (85pts) [Psyker Level 1]
············Librarius Armour [Bolt Pistol, Force Stave, Space Marine Bike]

+ Elites (395pts) +

········Command Squad (185pts) [Space Marine Bike]
············Apothecary [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]

········Dreadnoughts (110pts)
············Dreadnought [Assault Cannon, Powerfist w/ Built-in Storm Bolter]

········Dreadnoughts (100pts)
············Dreadnought [Multi-Melta, Powerfist w/ Built-in Storm Bolter]

+ Troops (310pts) +

········Tactical Squad (155pts)
············Razorback [Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine (Special Weapon) [Meltagun]
············Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-Melta, Veteran Sergeant]

········Tactical Squad (155pts)
············Razorback [Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine (Special Weapon) [Meltagun]
············Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-Melta, Veteran Sergeant]

+ Fast Attack (150pts) +

········Attack Bike Squad (150pts)
············Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]
············Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]
············Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]

+ Heavy Support (225pts) +

········Thunderfire Cannons (100pts) [Thunderfire Cannon]

········Vindicators (125pts)
············Vindicator [Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter]

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Just for a few fun doubles games, what y'all think?


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Was gonna put 1 Libby with the command squad and 1 with the attackbike squad

Looks fun.

Why not White Scars? Ultramarines is not the best CT for this list. Of course, if you’ve painted them blue, go for it. I know I’ve played plenty of lists that Ishould have swapped CTs for as Ultras because that’s my army. Just wanted to point that out if you are unpainted/a homebrew chapter.

Librarians are OK. Both could use that second ML.

If you are spamming grav in the command squad (a good plan) might be worth going all-in. That one guy with his chainsword looks lonely.

Your dreads could use pods and HFs. The MM one especially.

Why not bikes for troops? You have the mounted HQs. That said, your squads are fine. I think the vet sarge upgrade is a waste of points here, and if you can scrape the points to upgrade the guns on the razors, that would be a good thing.

I don’t see MM attack bikes as a squadron very often. I generally prefer either normal bikes squads, or land speeders for my fast melta needs. Might not be the most efficient use of points, but should get the job done.

TFC is good

Vindi could use the siege shield if you can find the points. I was a little fuzzy on the need for it, then I got my vindi caught up on some rubble. SB is good insurance for weapon destroyed results.

There are enough things I’d like to see upgraded, I’d suggest trimming something to get the points. The MM dread would be my first pick.

Overall this is a very close range army. Against a very mobile foe you are going to spend a lot of time running things down. I might try to get a little more long range firepower in there, but where is an issue. Putting TLLCs on the razors/dread would be one. Swapping out the MM bikes for some TML/HB speeders would be another. As you say this is for a doubles game, that might not be an issue if you partner is bringing the fire support. But it is something to keep in mind.

Thanks for the input, as far as my army I've been playing Ultramarines for years so I try to stick with them,I will take your advice and change some stuff around,get back with you shortly with an updated list


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And all the bikes I own at the moment are tied up into 2 command squads


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+++ Small Ultra (Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition v2019) (1245pts) +++

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Space Marines: Codex (2015) v2017) (1245pts) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

········Chapter Tactics [Ultramarines]

+ HQ (170pts) +

········Librarian (85pts) [Psyker Level 1]
············Librarius Armour [Bolt Pistol, Force Stave, Space Marine Bike]

········Librarian (85pts) [Psyker Level 1]
············Librarius Armour [Bolt Pistol, Force Stave, Space Marine Bike]

+ Elites (400pts) +

········Command Squad (200pts) [Space Marine Bike]
············Apothecary [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]

········Dreadnoughts (100pts)
············Dreadnought [Multi-Melta, Powerfist w/ Built-in Storm Bolter]

········Dreadnoughts (100pts)
············Dreadnought [Multi-Melta, Powerfist w/ Built-in Storm Bolter]

+ Troops (290pts) +

········Tactical Squad (145pts)
············Razorback [Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine (Special Weapon) [Meltagun]
············Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-Melta]

········Tactical Squad (145pts)
············Razorback [Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine (Special Weapon) [Meltagun]
············Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-Melta]

+ Fast Attack (150pts) +

········Attack Bike Squad (150pts)
············Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]
············Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]
············Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]

+ Heavy Support (235pts) +

········Thunderfire Cannons (100pts) [Thunderfire Cannon]

········Vindicators (135pts)
············Vindicator [Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Siege Shield]

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And yes I'm gonna b a midfield army, but I'm used to that with my other army being GK's


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Drop pod for dread would b awesome but I'm having trouble finding the points, will keep moving stuff around and trying tho


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+++ Small Ultra (Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition v2019) (1250pts) +++

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Space Marines: Codex (2015) v2017) (1250pts) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

········Chapter Tactics [Ultramarines]

+ HQ (220pts) +

········Librarian (110pts) [Psyker Level 2]
············Librarius Armour [Bolt Pistol, Force Stave, Space Marine Bike]

········Librarian (110pts) [Psyker Level 2]
············Librarius Armour [Bolt Pistol, Force Stave, Space Marine Bike]

+ Elites (345pts) +

········Command Squad (200pts) [Space Marine Bike]
············Apothecary [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]
············Veteran [Bolt Pistol, Grav-gun]

········Dreadnoughts (145pts)
············Dreadnought [Multi-Melta, Powerfist w/ Built-in Heavy Flamer]
············Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]

+ Troops (300pts) +

········Tactical Squad (150pts)
············Razorback [Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine (Special Weapon) [Meltagun]
············Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-Melta]

········Tactical Squad (150pts)
············Razorback [Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine [Boltgun]
············Space Marine (Special Weapon) [Meltagun]
············Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-Melta]

+ Fast Attack (150pts) +

········Attack Bike Squad (150pts)
············Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]
············Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]
············Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]

+ Heavy Support (235pts) +

········Thunderfire Cannons (100pts) [Thunderfire Cannon]

········Vindicators (135pts)
············Vindicator [Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Siege Shield]

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OK dropped a dread, added a drop pod and made both librarians lvl 2

Ultramarine50553 wrote:

OK dropped a dread, added a drop pod and made both librarians lvl 2

The list looks better after this change! Looks like a nice list with tactical flexibility.

Good luck, Cilithan

Not super experienced but maybe a Dakka pred instead of the vindicator? You've got a lot of anti-vehcile/heavier stuff, but could use something to chew through the masses, and dakka preds are cheap. at 95 points. it'd also free up points for a relic, or possibly some upgrades elsewhere as needed.