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Hey Everyone!

I was looking over and google searching for ideas in starting a new Necrons 7th edition army from scratch and I haven't found one or a good one anyway so I figured I just ask here.

I want to try something new to play and I want to start collecting a Necrons army.

What should I purchase and in what order? Also what makes up good synergies in the Necron armies?

Thanks A Lot guys!

Necron Must Haves:
20 Warriors
5 Immortals
3 Tomb Blades
6 Wraiths
2 Canoptek Spyder
6 Scarabs (should already have 6 included with 20 warriors)
9 Destroyers
1 Destroyer Lord
1 Nemesor Zandrekh
1 Overlord/Catacomb Command Barge

Necron Good to Have:
3 Heavy Destroyers
+3 Scarabs (for Retribution Phalanx)
+6 Tomb Blades
10 Praetorians
1 Triarch Stalker
10 Sword and Board Lychguard
1 Orikan
1 Vargard Obyron

Necron Optionals:
Night Scythes/Doom Scythes
Ghost Arks
1 C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer
2 Crypteks
10 Flayed Ones
10 Deathmarks
1 Illuminor Szeras
1 Lord
+1 Overlord

Necron Don't Need:
Annihilation Barges
Doomsday Ark
Obelisk
Monolith
Tesseract Vault
C'tan Shard of the Deceiver
Transcendant C'tan
Anrakyr
Trazyn
Imotekh

shadowfoot387 wrote:
Hey Everyone!

I was looking over and google searching for ideas in starting a new Necrons 7th edition army from scratch and I haven't found one or a good one anyway so I figured I just ask here.

I want to try something new to play and I want to start collecting a Necrons army.

What should I purchase and in what order? Also what makes up good synergies in the Necron armies?

Thanks A Lot guys!

I was actually going to ask the same thing, as I just started a necron army. So I hope these responses are good

I will say, I think col_impact's must haves are based on running 3 very good formations. The first being the Reclamation Legion, needing at minimum 1 lord, 20 warriors, 5 immortals, and 3 tomb blades. It gives you a bonus to your reanimation protocols.
The second is the Destroyer Cult, needing 1 destroyer lord and 9 destroyers minimum. The formation provides Move Through Cover and more effective shooting.
The third is the Canoptek Harvest. It has 1 spyder, 3 wraiths, and 3 scarabs. It makes wraiths (which are good) even more awesome.

All 3 of these formations are amazing. They definitely give a huge boost to your army. HOWEVER, from what I've read they are not necessary to have an effective necron army. Necrons are quite powerful even when just using the basic CAD. So just know that all of these might not be considered must haves if you aren't planning on running all of those formations. Particularly if you are not trying to play super-competitively.

I, for example, am not going to be running the reclamation legion because I don't want to run tomb blades.

Newb question, but you can still use formation bonuses even if you don't have a complete Rec Legion or Decurion correct?

Like if you have a Stalker and 10 Prets you can utilize the Judi Battalion bonus without having a complete Reclamation Legion or Decurion on the table?

I'm in the same boat. Was thinking of grabbing a start collecting box and a box of Tomb Blades to start. Then probably add on another Start collecting box next week.

Would it be decent for small point games around 500-750 until I expand?
The models look really nice, the newer ones. Amazing what a paint scheme can do.

I agree with Freytag.

I use a reclamation legion, but I do not use a Canoptek harvest or a Destroyer Cult. Just not my play style.

I would say 20 warriors, some immortals, a couple ghost arks, a overlord or 2 is a very solid start. I would then get the rest of what you need for the reclamation legion.

Start looking at characters that interest you and grab a night scythe or 2 since your only anti air is your own flyers.

I don't run Canoptek Harvests, but I will say Wraiths are good. I reccomend the Rec. Legion and Destroyer Cult. Then get a Judicator Battalion, Deathmarks, and more Tomb Blades. From there on you can pretty much add in whatever you want and still be at least Semi-Competetive

Just be wary on what books you buy. A new edition is coming out sometime in 2017 (maybe around June) so what you buy now and maybe even how you model it could be invalidated in the next edition.

Other than that, I say buy what you want for Rule of Cool.

Dew wrote:Newb question, but you can still use formation bonuses even if you don't have a complete Rec Legion or Decurion correct?

Like if you have a Stalker and 10 Prets you can utilize the Judi Battalion bonus without having a complete Reclamation Legion or Decurion on the table?

Yep, that's correct. You can just run the regular formations and not run the giant formation of formations. Another example: running a destroyer cult and then a normal CAD.

Biadetic wrote:I'm in the same boat. Was thinking of grabbing a start collecting box and a box of Tomb Blades to start. Then probably add on another Start collecting box next week.

Would it be decent for small point games around 500-750 until I expand?
The models look really nice, the newer ones. Amazing what a paint scheme can do.

Yeah, that would be a great start IMO. Though you may want to pick up another box of warriors. 1 box doesn't seem like enough, even at low point games.

FireSkullz2 wrote:I don't run Canoptek Harvests, but I will say Wraiths are good. I reccomend the Rec. Legion and Destroyer Cult. Then get a Judicator Battalion, Deathmarks, and more Tomb Blades. From there on you can pretty much add in whatever you want and still be at least Semi-Competetive

This. You can run basically anything you want and still have a chance to win. Just don't go uber-competitive net lists in casual games. No one wants to be that guy

Davor wrote:Just be wary on what books you buy. A new edition is coming out sometime in 2017 (maybe around June) so what you buy now and maybe even how you model it could be invalidated in the next edition.

Other than that, I say buy what you want for Rule of Cool.

Yes, unfortunately this is likely true. Even if I don't put much faith in rumors, there will be a new edition at some point or a new codex. So don't worry too much about running the best possible list, since it may be nothing in 6 months or a year. For now, buy what you like, paint it up, and have some fun as undead terminators

If you want to have less eyes roll at you for fielding the umteenmillionth decurion, you could always shake things up with a Mephrit Dynasty formation. Min HQ and three troops (up to 7) blob squads of warriors...warriors everywhere and all your troops get to reroll failed reanimation of 1s...that's if warrior spam is your thing....or you could do another decurion....do whatever you find to be fun

Illuminor Szeras is a nice option to have but the model sucks- I recommend kitbashing a Lord and tomb spyder together to get a model more befitting his rules.
Ghost arks for your warriors all day.

Monoliths are interesting. They've lost their appeal with the loss of their melta immunity but they are a good strategic asset. A couple of these around the place makes for some really good rapid response and maneouverability for your foot sloggers.

Giantwalkingchair wrote:
If you want to have less eyes roll at you for fielding the umteenmillionth decurion, you could always shake things up with a Mephrit Dynasty formation. Min HQ and three troops (up to 7) blob squads of warriors...warriors everywhere and all your troops get to reroll failed reanimation of 1s...

I like this idea. Where did you find this formation? I can't find that in the codex.

XD that's awesome mate. What you're saying there is actually what I fielded before I sold my crons. I found it fun and those monoliths are great nasty surprise bringers. Hope you get a kick out of it Always happy to see a player do something different than decurion.

 Freytag93 wrote:

Giantwalkingchair wrote:
If you want to have less eyes roll at you for fielding the umteenmillionth decurion, you could always shake things up with a Mephrit Dynasty formation. Min HQ and three troops (up to 7) blob squads of warriors...warriors everywhere and all your troops get to reroll failed reanimation of 1s...

I like this idea. Where did you find this formation? I can't find that in the codex.

I believe it's in the Exterminatus supplement. I've been using the "Conclave Of The Burning One" formation form the same book and it's one of my favourite things ever.

Lance845 wrote:I agree with Freytag.

I use a reclamation legion, but I do not use a Canoptek harvest or a Destroyer Cult. Just not my play style.

I would say 20 warriors, some immortals, a couple ghost arks, a overlord or 2 is a very solid start. I would then get the rest of what you need for the reclamation legion.

Start looking at characters that interest you and grab a night scythe or 2 since your only anti air is your own flyers.

Well, the new rules that came out with DftS (which replace the Rulebook rules, as written), state that Nightscythes do not have the Skyfire special rule and, thus, cannot be used for Anti-air, even though they are already flyers on their own. Go figure, but the rules remain rules, Nightscythes don't provide with AA. Only buy Nightscythes if you want to use them as Transports, if you like the models and if you have a plan to use them a lot, take advantage of their transport capability.

Giantwalkingchair wrote:XD that's awesome mate. What you're saying there is actually what I fielded before I sold my crons. I found it fun and those monoliths are great nasty surprise bringers. Hope you get a kick out of it Always happy to see a player do something different than decurion.

Don't make people feel bad for wanting to play Decurion. The entire codex is written arround it. It's a decurion-centered codex. And, to add to that, there's a million different ways to field it.It's not a formation, it's an entire way to play Necrons, one that is almost forced by the codex itself in so many ways. All the choices of the codex can be fielded in a decurion, there's a lot of variety.

Giantwalkingchair wrote:If you want to have less eyes roll at you for fielding the umteenmillionth decurion, you could always shake things up with a Mephrit Dynasty formation. Min HQ and three troops (up to 7) blob squads of warriors...warriors everywhere and all your troops get to reroll failed reanimation of 1s...that's if warrior spam is your thing....or you could do another decurion....do whatever you find to be fun

Illuminor Szeras is a nice option to have but the model sucks- I recommend kitbashing a Lord and tomb spyder together to get a model more befitting his rules.
Ghost arks for your warriors all day.

Monoliths are interesting. They've lost their appeal with the loss of their melta immunity but they are a good strategic asset. A couple of these around the place makes for some really good rapid response and maneouverability for your foot sloggers.

Honestly, I don't understand where all this Decurion hate comes from. It's a very fluffy, variable to a big degree, non-cheesy way of fielding the Necrons' legions. It's not too strong to unbalance any game you play and it's also not too weak to lose to anything non-cheesy. You can field it with lots of assault threats, lots of shooting threats or silver tide.

Personally, Szeras is not my gig, but he's okay for Warrior lists. I personally always liked Orikan, especially in the 5th edition codex when he wasn't even competitive. He's my favorite HQ in the book, since the day he was revealed. But, that's more personal preference!

Monoliths are my favorite! Back in 3rd edition codex, they were mandatory! They were impossible to kill, true Necron vehicles. They were the unstoppable force, the iconic force in Necron lists! I've got 3 of them and still like to field them regularly in most casual games (when I'm not too bored of actually carrying them, cause they're quite large)


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Personally, my advice to a new Necron player is buy what you find cool. But, also the minimum to a Rec.Legion is not far off from the strictly necessary to play with. (5 Immortals, 20 Warriors, 1 Overlord, 3 Tomb Blades) They should be easy to get. If you decide not to field a Decurion, later, you still won't have a lot of extra models, since the same are also required for a CAD or anything like that. But, if you don't have them and you find yourself wanting to field a Decurion in a certain day, you'll have to buy more.

Then, look at our formations. They're interesting, they're fun to use and they give synergy to our units. You can decide, obviously, to not use any, but that's not very likely, since there's enough for every taste. Again, I'm also going to suggest rule of cool. Find one or two certain units you like and build your list arround them. Support them properly and you can make decent lists, for sure.

Good luck and if you have any questions, don't hesitate!