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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/26 01:29:49
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Or a fortification? This is for the purpose of geomancy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/26 02:43:55
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Ship's Officer
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Fortification, as you buy it with actual pts available in your list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/26 14:47:22
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's both, as buildings (which fortifications are) are a type of terrain as per page 108 in the main rulebook under "Terrain Types"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/26 15:58:13
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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doctortom wrote:It's both, as buildings (which fortifications are) are a type of terrain as per page 108 in the main rulebook under "Terrain Types"
Ding! Theres the reference. Thank you very much good sir!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/26 15:58:22
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Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/26 16:01:08
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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xSoulgrinderx wrote: doctortom wrote:It's both, as buildings (which fortifications are) are a type of terrain as per page 108 in the main rulebook under "Terrain Types" Ding! Theres the reference. Thank you very much good sir!
Hopefully it is "building" that you were looking for. Landing Pad is NOT a building. It is purchased as a Fortification and has the Terrain Type: Unique -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/26 16:04:13
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Stealthy Kroot Stalker
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HE wants to move his landing pad forward 24" with all the units on top to get in short range shooting the crap out of everything and still have a 4++ with the inability to charge anything at it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/26 16:04:19
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Galef wrote: xSoulgrinderx wrote: doctortom wrote:It's both, as buildings (which fortifications are) are a type of terrain as per page 108 in the main rulebook under "Terrain Types"
Ding! Theres the reference. Thank you very much good sir!
Hopefully it is "building" that you were looking for. Landing Pad is NOT a building. It is purchased as a Fortification and has the Terrain Type: Unique
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The debated "Terrain Type" marking identifies it as an identifiable, but unique type of terrain. No? Other wise, it would say fortification type! =]
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/26 16:04:26
37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
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15,000pts - Firehawks
10,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/30 14:44:01
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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The Stronghold Assault wording is Terrain type: Unique.
I am not sure of the wording in Planetary Onslaught
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/01 23:51:22
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Couldn't you just assault the landing pad?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/02 00:24:16
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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You have permission to charge enemy UNITS. Is terrain a unit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/02 00:36:20
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
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Anybody telling you you can't charge a unit on a landing pad can go feth themselves. It's not easy given the height but you just charge it like you would charge any other unit on a higher level of terrain. Or treat it like a battlement, which can also be charged iirc. Could be wrong but the model even comes with hatches and ladders if memory serves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/02 01:22:34
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Roknar wrote:Anybody telling you you can't charge a unit on a landing pad can go feth themselves. It's not easy given the height but you just charge it like you would charge any other unit on a higher level of terrain. Or treat it like a battlement, which can also be charged iirc. Could be wrong but the model even comes with hatches and ladders if memory serves.
it has ladders, they're decorative though, according to the terrain sheet, it has no access points. to charge a unit on top is tricky because A) you need to be able to see the unit, and B) you are treated as moving through difficult terrain to assault onto it. C) This will inevitably lead to the WMS debate, especially if the walls are up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/02 13:52:04
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Roknar wrote:Anybody telling you you can't charge a unit on a landing pad can go feth themselves. It's not easy given the height but you just charge it like you would charge any other unit on a higher level of terrain. Or treat it like a battlement, which can also be charged iirc. Could be wrong but the model even comes with hatches and ladders if memory serves.
Indeed the Landing pad is considered open terrain, so assaults are not hinder. However, it is important to note that LoS is still required to charge. I have successfully denied assaults by placing my units toward the rear of the pad. Unless a model can move to the top level, they may not be able to see the unit they want to charge as being close enough to charge will also mean the LP itself blocks their LoS
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/02 13:53:47
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Galef wrote: Roknar wrote:Anybody telling you you can't charge a unit on a landing pad can go feth themselves. It's not easy given the height but you just charge it like you would charge any other unit on a higher level of terrain. Or treat it like a battlement, which can also be charged iirc. Could be wrong but the model even comes with hatches and ladders if memory serves.
Indeed the Landing pad is considered open terrain, so assaults are not hinder. However, it is important to note that LoS is still required to charge. I have successfully denied assaults by placing my units toward the rear of the pad. Unless a model can move to the top level, they may not be able to see the unit they want to charge as being close enough to charge will also mean the LP itself blocks their LoS
isn't just the top of the pad considered open terrain?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/02 14:08:41
Subject: Is a skyshield landing pad terrain?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Yes, you are correct. You'd still have to take difficult terrain.
So between the difficult terrain and possibility of not being able to see the unit, assaulting onto a Landin pad is quite difficult.
In my area, we also consider vertical distance too, so add another 3" to any charge. You basically have to get onto the Pad in the movement phase in order to have a chance to assault a unit that is at the rear of the Pad.
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