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Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




Been trying to create a Harlequins list which could stand up to competitive play.

Masque Detachment

8 troupe, 6 caress, HW gernades
8 troupe, 6 caress, HW gernades
8 troupe, 6 caress, HW gernades

Shadowseer (2) w/MoS
Shadowseer (2)
Shadowseer (2)
Shadowseer (2)

Solitare, HW grenades


3 skyweavers. HW cannons, Zephyrs
Starweaver

Voidweaver


Ceoragh's Revenge

5 troupe, 4 caress, HW grenades, Inrim's Spectre

2 skyweavers. HW cannons, Zephyrs

Voidweaver


8-man troupes have a shadowseer each and one of those troupes will have the extra shadowseer
The 5-man troupe takes the starweaver and is joined by the DJ who can use the starweaver as a moile gunboat when the troupe disembark.

Obviously no AA but there's no answer to that in pure harlequins.

What do you think? Do anyone have experience of running pure harlequins?
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




No one got any interest in pure halrequins?!
   
Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User




Your list seems more competitive than most Harlequin lists I've seen, but Harlequins in general do not have enough unit variety to be competitive. I'd take some Craftworld allies to add some extra ranged staying power to the list- Reapers maybe, or even an Avenger shrine. If you need extra anti-tank, even some Dark Eldar Lances cold work well.
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




Thanks. I understand what you're saying. It is tempting to take out the Ceogragh's Revenge formation for A farseer or two with some scatt bikes but I would really like to try to stay all Harlequins.

Does anyone have experience of running pure harlequins competitively?
   
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Dimmamar

The only time I've seen it done was in a local RTT. He did not do well.
In fact, I played him using GK Termies (a super sub-par build), and I tabled him--that's how poorly it went for him :/ Waah waaaaaaah.

At LVO (which I attended) the best Harlie player had a 4-2 win-loss record, got 110/391, and had not quite half his list in Eldar. So one interpretation of that is that the Harlies were a big handicap for him.

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Longtime Dakkanaut




I'm confused with your formations. The formation you're calling Cegorach's revenge looks a lot more like Cegorach's jest (the revenge is the huge one), but still, how do you fit a death jester in it?

Why did you take an additional shadowseer? And what's your plan with them power wise? All roll on phantasmancy or do you take veil of tears + psychic shriek?
A big concern with your list is that you depend so much on veil of tears that a bad psychic phase would mean the end of your game.

What's your plan with the Skyweavers? HW cannon/zephy glaives is an odd combo to me. Glaives make you want to assault TEQ and MC with a low toughness, against which your HW cannons are wasted. And on your first turn you might need to turbo boost to get into position for the T2 charge.
And if you don't plan on assaulting quickly with them, I fear you don't have enough fast units. To me, Harlequins need to engage the threatening units quickly (read charge them T2), and you need fast unit for that (Skyweavers or troupes in Starweavers). I'm not a big fan of footslogging troupes, but many are. I still think you need at least a portion of your army to be able to maneuver well, and if you want to spend a couple turns with your Skyweaver shooting at vehicles, you might need more stuff to get into the opponent's face quickly.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Yeah, it's supposed to be the Cegorach's Jest formation. The deathjester is from the Masque but I put him in the wrong place in the list.

Additional shadow seer for more warp charges and to have another psyker to cast out powers/ have a go on telepathy for invisibility or something. For the rest of them, I will be taking veil of tears then will try on phantasmancy for fog of dreams. I understand what you're saying about the haywire cannons but I wanted to have the option of having ranged AT.

I've not really played harlequins, but from what I've read on the internet, using VoT gives great protection and can set troupes up for a T2 charge, providing the opponent dosen't stick to the extremes of their table edge.

Saying that, the most successful lists which I have seem use MSU with troupes in starweavers. However, I want a list with more footsloggers which may not be as fast but when played with patience and successful VoT rolls will out maneuver oppoenets and get into combat
   
 
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