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Hi I have 10 ork nobz and 25 ork boyz.is this big enough for any battle if smaller battles exist.mabey kill team.

You can't play 40k as you lack an HQ that leads the army, but you have plenty of models to play kill team.

I do have a HQ nob

 Blackie wrote:
You can't play 40k as you lack an HQ that leads the army, but you have plenty of models to play kill team.

That assumes there's no formation that fits or that he doesn't play unbound but bigger issue is lack of points. One nob can always work as warboss but those models don't get you far. Kill team yes, regular 40k game not so much.

So do I have a big enough army for a kill team?

Yes indeed, with no upgrades 10 boyz and 3 nobz cost 114 points, and kill team has a budget of max 200 points.

You could easily give your guys enough upgrades to fill out to 200 points to play a kill team game.

One thing you might want to consider, play a type of 'on-going' kill team game with some friends. Each time you play, the winner get's D3 points, the looser gets 1. Each point can be used to add up to 25 points to your army. You can use them as soon as you get them, or save them for later. This way you can slowly build your Ork army, not feel rushed to do so, and still play with what you have.

Before long, you will end up with 1000 points or so and an army you can play in regular 40k games.

Ravingbantha wrote:
You could easily give your guys enough upgrades to fill out to 200 points to play a kill team game.

One thing you might want to consider, play a type of 'on-going' kill team game with some friends. Each time you play, the winner get's D3 points, the looser gets 1. Each point can be used to add up to 25 points to your army. You can use them as soon as you get them, or save them for later. This way you can slowly build your Ork army, not feel rushed to do so, and still play with what you have.

Before long, you will end up with 1000 points or so and an army you can play in regular 40k games.

That is a great idea for building an army and I'll probably use it in a league eventually. Though I would change it to 1 point for win and d3 for losing just so that the loser has a chance to catch up and it doesn't snowball. Winning is its own reward.

Azoqu wrote:

Ravingbantha wrote:
You could easily give your guys enough upgrades to fill out to 200 points to play a kill team game.

One thing you might want to consider, play a type of 'on-going' kill team game with some friends. Each time you play, the winner get's D3 points, the looser gets 1. Each point can be used to add up to 25 points to your army. You can use them as soon as you get them, or save them for later. This way you can slowly build your Ork army, not feel rushed to do so, and still play with what you have.

Before long, you will end up with 1000 points or so and an army you can play in regular 40k games.

That is a great idea for building an army and I'll probably use it in a league eventually. Though I would change it to 1 point for win and d3 for losing just so that the loser has a chance to catch up and it doesn't snowball. Winning is its own reward.

Never been a fan of participation trophies. If you instinctive loosing, you will have people who will loose intentionally, just to build a bigger army, you have to realize, not everyone see's winning the same way as you might. For some people 'winning' is can take different aspect, sure they gave up a game, but now their army is bigger, do that 2 or 3 times and now your army is significantly bigger. There are plenty of ways you can restrict some armies from getting too big, it's something we discussed after the league I played in, finished. You can limit the number of points that can be recruited in a week, You can limit the number of ranked games played, you can even, there is also the casualty rule that helps keep things in check. The casualty rule is: After each game, roll a d6 for each unit killed during the game, on a 1 the injury is too great and they are removed from your roster, on a 2-3 they loose 1 wound or hull point during the next game (if a unit only has 1 wound or hull point, they sit the next game out, as they recover), and on a 4+ they recover fully. There was also the option to spend a victory point to reroll one of injury rolls, but you already had to have one 'banked' from a previous game to do this.

In the league I played in, we had the casualty rule as well as restricting the league to 3 raned games every 2 weeks. This allowed everyone plenty of time to get in their games. However, we did find that recruitment can still be a problem, as no matter how you do it, some armies will simply get too big to beat. We've talked about limiting the number of points that can be recruited every 2 week cycle, also are considering limiting recruitment to the beginning of each cycle, and we are also looking at changing the '3 ranked games every 2 weeks' to be a 'rollover' effect. So if you come in late to the league, or are away and miss a cycle, you can catch up by playing the games you missed on.

Alternatively just increase the cap by 25 points (or other agreed on value) each game so both players can expand the army and find something else to use as a prize for winning if you want to have one. I'm not a fan of participation trophies either but letting the winner constantly add more to the army than the loser does tend to guarantee they continue to be the winner and games very quickly stop being fun for either party if the imbalance gets too big.

Play against a friend and explain what you have. With any luck he'll pick a fair match of models while you're (presumably) building up your force.
As it is your army is lacking in the basics for Orks so you may find it hard to get pickup games, at least one's you'll have a chance of winning or enjoying.

You don't need to use force organisation charts. Just a few squads of orks and nobs is a perfectly 'legal' army. Unbound force organisation can be great for small points value games!

I find small games are especially good for telling stories. Try and make a 3 game campaign where the narrative unfolds itself as you progress through the games.

 Orkmadness wrote:
Hi I have 10 ork nobz and 25 ork boyz.is this big enough for any battle if smaller battles exist.mabey kill team.

Use 1 Nob with PK to be your Warboss
Use 1 Nob with some weird weapon to be a Painboy

POINTS: 751

HQ:
Warboss w/PK
Painboy

ELITES:
6 Nobz w/Eavy Armor(Including Boss Nob) with 4 hidden PKs and a Kombi-Skorcha nob w/Big Choppa

TROOPS:
12 Ard Boyz with Nob/PK
13 Ard Boyz with Nob/PK

Blackie wrote:You can't play 40k as you lack an HQ that leads the army, but you have plenty of models to play kill team.

YES he can play 40K. Why are you lying to him. Why are you telling him to play your way? He can perfectly play a game in 40K. You should not be putting your view on how 40K should be played on other people at all. This is just wrong. Why don't you explain to him that he would be playing Unbound and in most cases he will not get a game in because most people don't like playing Unbound.

Yes Orkmandess you have a playable army. Sad thing is, there are people out there that will not play against anyone that is using an Unbound army. The 40K rule book says this is perfectly Legal. To have a "bound" army you need at least one HQ and two Troops minimum or a formation.

Sadly for me, where I play most people says you need so many points and a bound army to play. I find this wrong. So it all depends on who you play against. Who will you be playing against? Are you going to a gaming store? You can explain that you just got into 40K, only have this and would like to get a feel for it and have a game playing Unbound so this way you can become more familiar with the game before buying more.

So instead of asking the internet if you have a playable army, you do. Will you get a game it? It depends on who you play. You would think most people would be acceptable to this to help out new comers but sadly the 40K community are set in their ways. You must abide by their way or they will shun you and not play with you. Hopefully this is not the case for you.

Good luck, and I hope you can really enjoy your army.

You actually have a good starting army with 25 boyz and 10 nobz, assuming that they are fully painted. Add in 2 more boyz and you will have 3 squads of troops plus up to two elite choices of nobz. Poxy one of the nobz (you do have to paint it differently or make it outstanding from the rest) as warboss to make your force into a legal CAD. That gives you a bare minimal of 378 points without any upgrades or gears. You should have enough to play any 500 pts game.

Try to get a truck if you can.
Also other than kill team you can play a miniwargaming esc roleplaying campaign.
Good luck getting into the hobby, and don't forget a good kill team campaign can help you decide what models to get next.