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CAD

HQ

Warboss
Warbike
Klaw
Da Lucky Stick
Bosspole
140 pts

Painboy
Warbike
75 pts

TROOPS

20 Boyz
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
160 pts

20 Boyz
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
160 pts

20 Boyz
shootas
2 big shootas
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
190 pts

20 Boyz
shootas
2 big shootas
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
190 pts

20 Boyz
shootas
2 big shootas
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
190 pts

10 Gretchin
35 pts

FAST ATTACK

5 Deffkoptas
twin-rokkits
buzzsaws
225 pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

1 Traktor Kannons
2 additional grots
1 ammo runts
39 pts

Looted Wagon
Killkannon
big shoota
72 pts

Looted Wagon
Killkannon
big shoota
72 pts


Blitz Brigade Formation

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
Extra Armour
Grot Riggers
140 pts

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
Extra Armour
Grot Riggers
140 pts

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
Extra Armour
Grot Riggers
140 pts

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
Extra Armour
Grot Riggers
140 pts

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
Extra Armour
Grot Riggers
140 pts

2248 pts

HQ's go to deffkoptasSlugga boys and they battle wagons go outflank. Koptas and shoota boys with their wagons make scout move. Well, that's the basic idea... Any suggestions?

I love da blitz brigade but i prefer filling those wagons with 3 units of boyz and two units of tankbustas. Also never been a fan of biker characters with deffkpotas, i prefer a mob of bikers and single koptas. Gretchin can be useless if you have that many boyz units. I'd also suggest to keep battlewagons as cheap as possible, only ram and a rokkit on them, no other upgrades and it would be nice if you find a room for a couple of meks in some boyz squad to save the pk nob from challenges. I prefer min units of lootas and lobbas/KMK over looted wagons with killkannons but in a list full of av14 vehicles they can ben nice.

Koptas are mostly because scout and soaking up wounds, maybe popping up rhino or similar. And I don't have any tank bustas and 60 boyz isn'y enough to me, I'm used to run foot slogging goff army with 150 boyz...

I think I will drop some vehicle upgrades and add meks to slugga boys. Grots are for grapping objective etc.

I have some 2nd ed plastic bikers waiting to conversion to modern lookin ones, but I like to scratc hbuild stuff and have some nice deffkoptas coming up. Basicly jet engines with ork on front and I was thinkin to convert/scratch build warboss and painboy to jetbike-like bikes. Also all tanks are going to be scratch build, every one of them with distingtive and unique look. Looted wagons are insired by one old epic ork tank type.

I will post modified list soon.

Old epic Style Lung Bursta was what I did mean:





Smothing like that, but with open topped and with turret... And more spikes and stuff, because Goffs.






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CAD

HQ

Warboss
Warbike
Klaw
Da Lucky Stick
Bosspole
140 pts

Painboy
Warbike
75 pts

Mek
15 pts

Mek
15 pts

TROOPS

19 Boyz
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
154 pts

19 Boyz
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
154 pts

20 Boyz
shootas
2 big shootas
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
190 pts

20 Boyz
shootas
2 big shootas
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
190 pts

20 Boyz
shootas
2 big shootas
Nob with
Klaw, bosspole
190 pts

10 Gretchin
Slaver
35 pts

FAST ATTACK

5 Deffkoptas
twin-rokkits
buzzsaws
225 pts

3 Wartrakks
twin rokkits
90 pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

1 Traktor Kannons
1 additional grots
33 pts

Looted Wagon
Killkannon
big shoota
72 pts

Looted Wagon
Killkannon
big shoota
72 pts


Blitz Brigade

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
120 pts

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
120 pts

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
120 pts

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
120 pts

Battle Wagon
Rokkit
Reinforced Ram
120 pts


2250 pts

To upgrade to 2500 pts

9 Warbikers
Nob with
klaw, bosspole
202 pts

Second trkator kannon to Mek gunz
3 additional grots
2 ammo runts
45 pts

1 Gretchin
3 pts

I'd drop the grots, a mek, and the wartrakks, With that I'd get 2 units of 5 tankbustas, each with a bomb squig, and stick them on your looted wagons. Put some chairs and an umbrella on top or something lol, but they can fire at full bs even when the wagon fires it's kannon. Which it will want to as opposed to moving flat out, so the tankbustas can always shoot. Plus they have comparable ranges and S values, so great synergy overall.

Replace all your big shootas on vehicles with rokkits. The big shootas in the shoota boy mobz are fine.

Field the tracktor gunz in separate units.

Your list doesn't need it now, but you have the troops and HQ to field a double cad. You should seriously consider fielding deffkoptas solo and bikers in naked units of 3. They are tough and are probably the best shooting units the orks have thanks to TL but not better in CC than your average boy.

I've seen biker HQ with koptas work, but remember those koptas are primarily wound soakers. Your boss will mulch and min/maxed MSU squad he runs into without help, anything bigger should be attacked by multiple squads at once. I'd drop 3 buzzsaws and grab another HQ (weirdboy, warboss, or big mek.) or a couple more koptas, or another unit of bikers, or some lootas. If you grab another HQ, da finkin kap would be cool. Double strat trait can really change the game.

Battlewagons should have 4x rokkits and ram. 5 pts per rocket is an amazing fething deal. Maybe use the points from the buzzsaws for this, consider dropping another buzzsaw and all the extra grots or ammo runts you may have laying around for more. The three containing shoota boyz could probably take a mek gun if you wanted to. Basically a unit of 3x kannons at a fraction of the price and av 14 instead of t7 grot ld. At what... 10-15 pts they still cheaper than grabbing another tankbusta. Don't think the lobba would synergize with the rokkits and the poor zzap gun has always been worthless. It may be also be worth considering a killkannon, rokkit, ram for the shoota boy wagons. You'd have to cut down on their unit size iirc but the points you'd save should cover it and then some, plus the killkannon is more effective firepower than those lost boyz.

Besides that, happy huntin.

Good points slip, I definetly have to think about double CAD. Was orginally ment to give looted wagons rokkits, but forgot it because loss sleep this week. Douple CAD would make wielding traktor kannons separetly viable. And you got good point with tankbustas. I did wanted to wield them orginally, couldn't see safe delivery mechanism to them.

Yeah, 5 buzzsaws seems bit overkill. Another biker boss couldn't hurt. Or one or two in slugga boyz mobs. Or looted wagon full of lootas, which could be used as AA, if needed.

Not sure about 4 rokkits per, was planning to make them cheap as possible rammers after they have unloaded their payload. Maybe if I have some points left after other changes. Not going for kilcannons for them, I like big units of boyz, it's just personal preference.

The thing is with battlewagons is that after they dump their payload they tend to be totally ignored. Their primary function is complete and if they don't have a lot of weapons... Well, their uses are limited. If you want them that way, sure. But for at least 15 points per wagon more, you're looking at 20 rokkits vs 5. Four at a time might not seem impressive but with a little luck that is a devastating amount of firepower for 100 points on top of the 550 you've already committed to spending. For comparison's sake, you could take 3 kopta tl rokkits, 4 warbuggy tl rokkits, five bustas and a trukk for 6 rokkits total, or basically the equivalent to a punisher gatling cannon firing rokkits. I know what I'd take.

4 rokkits it's then!