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Hi would appreciate any advice on my list currently is doing quite well in my local group.

Great unclean one lvl 3 1 greater
Herald lvl 2
Herald lvl 2

10 plaguebearers
10 plaguebearers
3 nurglings

Deamon prince lvl 3 flight 1 greater
Deamon prince lvl 2 flight 1 greater
Deamon prince lvl 2 flight 1 greater

Allied csm
Deamon prince lvl 3 flight mark of nurgle spell familiar
10 cultists

The csm prince and hearlds always do full deamogly the unclean one always take bio i normally deep strike him and a unit of plaguebearers. The other three dp always take shriek and then for the rest it depends on who i play.

I always want cursed earth and incursion summoning drones that don't scatter has worked amazingly the damage output is not high but i seem to do well on malestrom and combined focus on units means i can kill what i need to for example shriek had worked really well killing my mates riptides

Any advice would be gratefully taken thanks .

Personally, I'd drop one unit of plague bearers to get a second gift on the three princes.

Could get a relic for your csm prince too, like a daemon weapon. Which legion were you thinking of for the csm prince?

Assuming you choose death guard, since you are already nurgle, the pandemic staff would be a good fit. +2 strength, poison 2+, and a handy 2+ poison flamer... you'd get fnp too from death guard.

perrin23860 wrote:
Personally, I'd drop one unit of plague bearers to get a second gift on the three princes.

Could get a relic for your csm prince too, like a daemon weapon. Which legion were you thinking of for the csm prince?

No idea tbh i haven't got the legion codex yet any suggestions?


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I was thinking of dropping the plaguebearers and hearld for a HQ prince of tzentch to add firepower what do you think or should i keep it full nurgle?

A thousand sons prince could really help, but really only if you were to roll decent powers, like treason of tzeentch. Kind of a gamble. I think the nurgle load out would be a bit more consistent, and keeps the full nurgle theme.

If all the princes take shriek, you have a respectable amount of firepower already.

perrin23860 wrote:
A thousand sons prince could really help, but really only if you were to roll decent powers, like treason of tzeentch. Kind of a gamble. I think the nurgle load out would be a bit more consistent, and keeps the full nurgle theme.

If all the princes take shriek, you have a respectable amount of firepower already.

It's funny you mention that i said to my friend i might drop the plaguebearers and heralds for a tztetch prince for firepower

Haha awesome, i was thinking of something like your list the last few days XD.

You could kick the second Nurgle Herald and scrap the greater reward on the Unclean One. That's enough points to get your Princes up to ML 3 and give each one 2 greater Rewards and you also can make your CSM Detachment Deathguard by giving the Cultists MoN.

Greater Unclean One also can go Malefic Deamonology, he has enough LP to suffer some Perils by Summoning. Bio is also good but i think Daemo is better for him^^.

Only thing i don't like by Daemons is the Warpstorm, cause without Fateweaver or a Incursion Detachment, he sometimes really F***s you up=(.

I also don't recommand a CSM Tzeentch DP in your list. It is a real gamble for a good Power on the Tzeentchspelltable and also the Prince is not that durable as a Nurgle one.
But if you want some diversity try it out^^.



I thought a bit of a different army for myself, as i really Hate the Warpstorm. Deathguard Rules give everyone with VotlW a 5+ FnP, Relentless and -1 Initiative.

So i thought about making a Deathguard Flying Circus with 4 Nurgle Princes from CSM. They rock a 5+ Daemonsave, 5+ FnP, 2+ Cover and 3+ Armour (if you take it). That's not bad.

You only have to fill your Troops with cheap Cultists. I don't think that it can be done with a Deathguard Vectorium, as the Core + Aux will always be around 400-500 Points. The benefits for the DPs are also marginal (Stealth is not that good on the Nurgle DPs), only the reroll to FnP would be good, but not with a 500 Points tax.

DP of Nurgle with Flight, Armour, Spellfamiliar, ML3 and Black Mace
DP of Nurgle with Flight, Armour, Spellfamiliar, ML3 and Plaguebringer
DP of Nurgle with Flight, Armour, Spellfamiliar, ML3
DP of Nurgle with Flight, Armour, Spellfamiliar, ML3
4x10 Cultists with MoN

That's 1600 Points

So you have 250 Points left, which you can spend for whatever you want.

Give a DP Poxwalker Hive for Zombies or the Pandemic Staff.

I am interested what you think of such a list=).

 Darksider wrote:
Haha awesome, i was thinking of something like your list the last few days XD.

You could kick the second Nurgle Herald and scrap the greater reward on the Unclean One. That's enough points to get your Princes up to ML 3 and give each one 2 greater Rewards and you also can make your CSM Detachment Deathguard by giving the Cultists MoN.

Greater Unclean One also can go Malefic Deamonology, he has enough LP to suffer some Perils by Summoning. Bio is also good but i think Daemo is better for him^^.

Only thing i don't like by Daemons is the Warpstorm, cause without Fateweaver or a Incursion Detachment, he sometimes really F***s you up=(.

I also don't recommand a CSM Tzeentch DP in your list. It is a real gamble for a good Power on the Tzeentchspelltable and also the Prince is not that durable as a Nurgle one.
But if you want some diversity try it out^^.



I thought a bit of a different army for myself, as i really Hate the Warpstorm. Deathguard Rules give everyone with VotlW a 5+ FnP, Relentless and -1 Initiative.

So i thought about making a Deathguard Flying Circus with 4 Nurgle Princes from CSM. They rock a 5+ Daemonsave, 5+ FnP, 2+ Cover and 3+ Armour (if you take it). That's not bad.

You only have to fill your Troops with cheap Cultists. I don't think that it can be done with a Deathguard Vectorium, as the Core + Aux will always be around 400-500 Points. The benefits for the DPs are also marginal (Stealth is not that good on the Nurgle DPs), only the reroll to FnP would be good, but not with a 500 Points tax.

DP of Nurgle with Flight, Armour, Spellfamiliar, ML3 and Black Mace
DP of Nurgle with Flight, Armour, Spellfamiliar, ML3 and Plaguebringer
DP of Nurgle with Flight, Armour, Spellfamiliar, ML3
DP of Nurgle with Flight, Armour, Spellfamiliar, ML3
4x10 Cultists with MoN

That's 1600 Points

So you have 250 Points left, which you can spend for whatever you want.

Give a DP Poxwalker Hive for Zombies or the Pandemic Staff.

I am interested what you think of such a list=).

Very interesting spell familiar on everything would be interesting and very good. I don't know why but kind of wanna keep it mainly deamons I'm played ,5 games so far the warpstone isn't to bad one game it did kill a DP tho

Sure at all it's your decision =).

I started playing daemons with beginning of 7th edition 2 or 3 years ago. So made quite a few games with them and if you don't have the old Fateweaver or a Incursion army it sometimes screws you over at the wrong time.

It also depends in which meta you play and which armies you face, but -1 Invul really hurts you (also the random instability tests), doesn't matter which army you face at all at the time it occurs =).


That's why i made a CSM Circus, hope it is somewhere competitive

Yeh I've had the -1 one game for 5 turns i got +1 invulnerable i know it can suck. But i like it really suits deamons I'm going to post a revised list in around a hr would appreciate any feedback


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My new list which will definitely hit the table tomorrow is as follows

Tzentch prince wings lvl 3 two greater impossible robe
Great unclean one lvl 3 two greater
3 nurglings
3 nurglings
Deamon prince nurgle lvl 2 flight 1 greater
Deamon prince nurgle lvl 2 flight 1 greater
Deamon prince nurgle lvl 2 flight 1 greater

Csm deamon prince lvl 3 wings spell familiar
10 cultists

Feedback is always welcome and appreciated will also post a battle report on here tomorrow

If you can get Warp Storm with an incursion force its great. the table isn´t that much of an issue then.

Yeah with incursion it's good, but without it sucks =).

Btw.: Make the Tzeentch guy the Wl and use the new Wrath of Magnus storm, it's a bit less devastating^^.

Yes but it also isn´t that helpful either. I believe there is much less damage potential

Only thing i don't like by Daemons is the Warpstorm, cause without Fateweaver or a Incursion Detachment, he sometimes really F***s you up=(.

Couldn't you just squeeze some points and make the CSM also a CaD? Then just declare them as your primary and you don't have to use the warpstorm at all.

Flying Curcus of Nurgle would use

Warlord - Great Unclean one, lvl 3
HQ 2 - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3
Troop 1 - Nurglings
Troop 2 - Nurglings
HvSu 1 - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3
HvSu 2 - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3
HvSu 3 - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3

Allied HQ - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3, spell formilliar, daemon weapon
Allied Tp - cultists

Not sure why you want so many greater gifts.
If your willing to use a Tzeentch Daemon Prince. I'd recommend taking 3-9 Tzeentch heralds instead and bringing up the warp charge pool.


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 Darksider wrote:
Sure at all it's your decision =).

I started playing daemons with beginning of 7th edition 2 or 3 years ago. So made quite a few games with them and if you don't have the old Fateweaver or a Incursion army it sometimes screws you over at the wrong time.

It also depends in which meta you play and which armies you face, but -1 Invul really hurts you (also the random instability tests), doesn't matter which army you face at all at the time it occurs =).

That's why i made a CSM Circus, hope it is somewhere competitive

This is why it is better to run a Taliban of 21 Nurglings and a Herald and 5 Nurgle furies. .. . Extra abilities, 12" loci bubble, effective units . . . But most importantly +/- 1 on warpstorm.

 Lord Fue Fue wrote:
Flying Curcus of Nurgle would use

Warlord - Great Unclean one, lvl 3
HQ 2 - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3
Troop 1 - Nurglings
Troop 2 - Nurglings
HvSu 1 - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3
HvSu 2 - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3
HvSu 3 - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3

Allied HQ - Daemon Prince, Nurgle, Flight, lvl 3, spell formilliar, daemon weapon
Allied Tp - cultists

Not sure why you want so many greater gifts.
If your willing to use a Tzeentch Daemon Prince. I'd recommend taking 3-9 Tzeentch heralds instead and bringing up the warp charge pool.


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 Darksider wrote:
Sure at all it's your decision =).

I started playing daemons with beginning of 7th edition 2 or 3 years ago. So made quite a few games with them and if you don't have the old Fateweaver or a Incursion army it sometimes screws you over at the wrong time.

It also depends in which meta you play and which armies you face, but -1 Invul really hurts you (also the random instability tests), doesn't matter which army you face at all at the time it occurs =).

That's why i made a CSM Circus, hope it is somewhere competitive

This is why it is better to run a Taliban of 21 Nurglings and a Herald and 5 Nurgle furies. .. . Extra abilities, 12" loci bubble, effective units . . . But most importantly +/- 1 on warpstorm.

Greater Gifts are for the defensive Rewards or the Balesword, which is, by the way, really awesome =).


Yeah i also played Incursion, the chance to get a bad result is not that high as with the regular warpstorm. In my last games i had always 1-2 neutral Results, 2-3 good and 1 bad.

Only Problem with my incursion is i have only 12 Nurglings and to many Plaguebearers XD.