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2018/05/11 18:09:33
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Big Reveal at Warhammer Fest
Slinky wrote: I am intrigued by them not showing off anything related to the Warhounds, it really does make me think that maybe there will be a new 28mm (plastic?) one, and they don't want to "spoil" the design until they are ready to release that.
Or is that the worst kind of wishful thinking?
apparently they needed to manually input the details of the resin sculpt as there was no 3D model for it as it was hand sculpted, so it's going to be (largely) the same it's just taken a lot longer to do than the ones they could fiddle with digitally so it's going to be the last of the initial release plan to be finished, so I don't think there will be any major design changes
2018/07/07 20:25:28
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Big Reveal at Warhammer Fest - August Release
Yodhrin wrote: I really, really dislike these "limited time only! buy buy buy!" affairs. I want to give you money GW, I have it right here put aside for this, but now you demand that in order to be permitted to give it to you I have to fething camp out your website at 10am on a Saturday morning and hope I can get my transaction through before all the other folk doing the same thing, many of whom will doubtless be scalper-scum who'll turn around and stick them on ebay.
If the big "deal" box is limited to 20K global and webstore exclusive(which is will be, surely? They won't be willing to allocate any to online retailers if there's that few available), will it even be a deal any more compared to just buying all the parts on their own with 20-25% off?
Unless the production thing means stock of the whole launch range is going to be pretty scarce(hence why so little of it is getting put in the big showy discount box), which is a great way to ensure the game is stillborn.
if you read a bit further in the sentence you get to 'with no more available until Xmas '
sound like they either do the planned launch with limited stock or delay the whole thing, limited production capacity is clearly a thing they're struggling with given how many releases have stuff going OOS on the first day of the pre-order period remaining tricky to get hold of for months afterwards
better to do a release with a significant chunk of stock (20K isn't small) and then build up enough for a refresh at Christmas than the same release then maybe a box or 2 for some stores the week after, and some different stores the week after that
2018/07/16 19:34:06
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Big Reveal at Warhammer Fest - August Release
Well it's flying away on the facebook group I use (note the price doesn't include postage), many ordering multiples
Model Kits for Less
Adeptus Titanicus - Grand Master Edition £175 GBP MJR Price £129.50 GBP PLUS Post of Choice due 18/08/18
SMALL print - GW If your customers are all-in and want to buy it all in one go, then your customers should consider the Grand Master Edition, BUT - We only have very limited quantities of this product. Talk to your regional account manager for more information - Have emailed the guy, as not picking up his phone, Will do VERY BEST for people., But , may be LIMITED in what we get - Fingers Crossed
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2018/08/06 20:30:33
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78
Togusa wrote: I am cautiously optimistic about this project. The problem that I see, is that while I think the models look great, and I may buy a couple of them in the next year, I won't buy the starter.
If I were to play a game like this, I'd want Eldar titans, and that to me is the crux of why I am cautiously optimistic about this game. Right now, they're cool models to collect and paint, but as for flare and fun. I'm just not seeing it yet.
The sad part to me is that they have stated on record that if the game does well they will add 40K Xenos and so on later through updates and expansions. But so far, all I am reading about the game is doom and gloom, whining and complaints, and that doesn't bode well for the future.
I guess this project might just be a little bit too ambitious.
Depends on where one reads, though. Dakka is the resident haven for whining and complaining, with the occasional interesting critical analysis mixed in there, whereas in many other communities there's sparked interest that might flare when the game gets out and we'll have more exposure to it. The price is a bit hefty, yes, but I'm not too pessimistic about that when one considers the very limited need for models in the game. Sure, a hundred or two stings, but with less need to expand it'll still be within bounds of reason. I know I've bought just rule books and tested games with proxy models before going further in, no reason people couldn't do the same here as there is indeed a modelless rules box available.
Well the facebook scale model kit group I belong to has firm orders for 24 grand master editions since they posted it today including at least 3 folk wanting 2 boxes, and that's the most enthusiasm I've seen for any games workshop stuff on it (compared to 18 Dark Imperium on it's release, 6 for Imperial Knight Renegade and 3 for Soul Wars). Now I suspect there's a strong nostalgia pull with a lot of scale model kit builders being older and thus far more likely to have played/lusted after AT when it first came out, but I think it shows the demand will be strong even at the price
I guess the question is how many of them will be playing, and of those how many will be playing in public places like stores and clubs as it might well be that the typical (older) buyer is less likely to play outside of their friend group
2018/08/07 14:35:41
Subject: Re:Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78
Sure, I would buy more things if they were cheaper too - but a company will price to get maximum return on their investment.
Of course they will. I would not expect different. GW though has a history of pricing itself higher than that. This to me seems like a case of that. They have done great over the past year for several reasons. One of which was making their box games really good deals. This seems to not be a very good deal to me. Compare it to Knight Renegade, Knight renegade gave a substantial discount on both knights and free terrain on top of that. This gives ... . .. . . free terrain? I know they value the cardboard and dice as well. But that imo is part of the problem.
You are still getting charged what you were before, we've just decided to gimp our economy so when you compare across to us it looks worse.
Sure and like before I try to get the best prices I can. In this case the best price in the US is still more than I see for value. The best price in the UK is something I would pay however.
Believe me, you are getting the better part of that deal.
I mean, we have our own problems here also. They just are different.
I think it's important to at least acknowledge that that cardboard is the one of thing GW will have to pay 'standard industry prices' for, it's not something they make themselves like the plastic so they have less margin to cut compared to a 40K starter which 'just' has the rulebook in)
not that it make it any easier if the price is more than you want to pay, but there are some reasons for that price being less of a deal than some other box sets
2018/08/07 22:15:41
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - All info in OP - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78
I suspect the reasons Titans fight in such pristine areas is that if Titan weapons are fired at a building it ceases to exist as anything worth of a model (more an illustration of a smoking crater on a mapsheet)
2018/08/09 13:19:05
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
the relevant bit is 'Each Legio gets its own rules, which boil down to traits and wargear. What is going to set some people off (I just have a feeling) is that only two legions are included in this rulebook – Legio Gryphonicus and Legio Tempestus. Which blows big monkey, whichever way you look at it.
My soul had been prepared not to have legio-specific rules for Xestobiax, but missing out on Mortis? Really?
I am presuming that we are going to be getting supplementary material sooner rather than later.'
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2018/08/11 09:51:51
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - Warhound Preview Pg91 - Pre Orders Up
Orlanth wrote: Yep, it looks like its is going to be a reasonable seller, just like the old Adeptus Titanicus. I would like to be able to buy in, but can't for a while, and will seek heavy discount.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also it doesnt appear that you have weapon options in the box. when paying that much for titans I would like plug in weapons like old school warlords had.
They're designed for magnets so you'll be able to swap loadouts that way
2018/08/11 22:31:30
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - Warhound Preview Pg91 - Pre Orders Up
Why is there a huge door opening into the air? Because the Emperor has decreed that it is so, all praise his name
(The plans are from a slightly damages STC)
During the terrible winter snow drifts many stories deep build up around the buildings on the outskirts of the hive, which have strategically placed extra doors to allow the workers to enter and exit as normal
2018/08/13 13:28:27
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - Warhound Preview Pg91 - Pre Orders Up
GW did inform retailers (at least some of them) last week on the same day as store orders went live,
the facebook model retail I use shared the emails from his rep saying there was a limit of 20 per store with perhaps minor discression
he then spent the rest of the day negotiating with the rep on the phone and finally ended up with 30
I fear element games oversold, perhaps in the hope they'd get more stock, perhaps because they didn't confirm the with their rep fast enough to realise what they were doing
2018/08/16 22:00:34
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - Warhound Preview Pg91 - Pre Orders Up
I don't think anything that happens with it now will really boost the chances of Xenos coming in (although if the launch had bombed it would have killed it)
whats going to matter is steady, profit making sales continuing up to the point they've run out of Imperial (and later Chaos) stuff
If that happens then Xenos have a good shot
2018/09/01 13:22:58
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - Warhound Preview Pg91 - Reaver Pre Orders Next weekend
I don't care whether this is a swift rethink due to the complaints from people who thought they'd been told it was going to happen based on what GW suggested (but I admit didn't explicitly state)
or if it's an announcement of something that was going to happen anyway but was planned for later
whatever it means those who don't want to make an entire legion can make do with one or two warlords only, and the game will be stronger for it
2018/11/13 19:06:50
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - page 153, new weapons and knights
factories with sloppy QC are also usually pretty good in cherry picking the best stuff to send out for approval so you usually only realise you've been stitched up (accidentally or deliberately) when stuff arrives
2018/11/29 14:05:37
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - page 169 new bundle deal
Sorry I did not realise that they had announced all the weapons would be release on seperate sprues, I was only aware that the new Warlord weapons were coming seperate, it would make it much easier for me to plan what I need if that is the case.
They haven't said the original weapons sprue will come out by itself, all they've talked about is the new one appearing at some point in the new year after the outcry from the community
(my suspicion is the old one won't, as I think they'd have mentioned it at the same time if they were planning to, but that's just a guess on my part)
2018/11/29 22:24:17
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - page 169 new bundle deal
JWBS wrote: Wow, I have to subscribe to Warhammer tv to watch their Twitch VODs. Genius. I bet whoever made this decision has made them loads of money, great work, whoever you are.
you can watch them live (although I know many can't)
If you've got amazon prime you also get access to twitch prime (which I think gives you a 'free' channel you can change every month) which may be an option for you?
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I wouldn't totally discount the epic is cannibalizing 40K sales argument as it was developed during the period when GW was doing market research and looking at their own internal sales data
and not just during Prime Time Kirby when actually knowing facts was seen as heretical
(but the thing is even if some epic players are less inclined to buy more 40K stuff if you carry on expanding Epic you'd have sold them more of that instead so it's not a terribly strong argument as long as you've got the staff and money to invest in running both at the same time)
2019/01/24 18:01:46
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - Titandeath up for pre-order
I suspect that temp out of stock is for stuff that automatically gets re-ordered/is internal to GW itself
Last chance to by should be for stuff they know isn't coming back
they probably need a 3rd category of 'we need to special order this printed stuff from another company, the head of finance needs to sign off on it before we know if it's happening'
2019/02/02 19:54:38
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus ongoing news and rumours - New Weapons, Terrain and Transfers - Pg198
