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123ply wrote:
People seem to hate the fact that Tyranids are written to be practically unstoppable, but I love that. Tyranids are supposed to be an undefeatable, ultra regenerative swarm that kills everything and anything. The sense of hopelessness when facing the Tyranids.leviathan is how they contribute to the grim dark setting of wh40k. If there was any hope to defeat them, would they still be scary?


This.

If people want to hide behind a few isolated stories where a Marine chapter has defeated a swarm, and bury their heads in the sand about the true scale of the Tyranid threat then by all means

It's currently unknown whether they're defeatable or not. That's part of what makes them a credible galactic-level threat. We have no idea if what we're seeing is the bulk of the swarm, or if there's even more yet to come.

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GodDamUser wrote:
Yeah the key to beating the Tyranids is finding the ships in hibernation and blowing them up, any race could do it.

The hard part is finding the fleet.
As the Tyranids do not use warp travel... technically they don't even travel at FTL (which is the biggest messed up thing with their storylines) they use solar sail and gas propellants (he he they fart for momentum) to travel at near light speeds.
And space is huge and no one else actually spends time traveling through it unless in a system.. at which point the Hive Ships are awake/ing and then its a fight

Fighting Nids in a ground war is never a good option


This actually sounds like a sensible option. Unfortunately, as Lance845 suggested the issue with the 'nids is that although they appear animalistic they're far from it. They're immensely intelligent and adaptive (just like us, and all other intelligent races). You might be able to get the drop on them a couple of times wit ha particular tactic, but they've got enough numbers that they can stomach that and adapt.

Now, that's not to say that they are actually undefeatable. Not at all. All it means is that it's not that simple.

The only way to defeat the 'nids is to come up with new ways of killing them faster than they can adapt. It's a massively tall order, but TBH it should be. They're a major faction in 40k. It shouldn't be easy to wipe them out.

Replace the 'nids with the Imperium in this example. It'd be a thoroughly gakky storyline if the Imperium was fighting the Tau, and the Tau came up with a virus that wiped out all of humanity. gakky storyline because it's just fantastically farfetched. Now, why would you think that such a situation is more believable with the 'nids? They're just as complicated and competent a race as we are, if not more. So, it's not that the 'nids are 'Mary Sue'. It's that they're actually a credible threat to the Imperium and the galaxy as a whole, just like an antagonist should be.
 
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