Wraithseer target self? (FW Doom of Mymeara)

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**DarkPhoenix**

Is there any rule i am missing that allow Wraithseer to target self with his psychic powers? (1 and 3)
Without attaching him to the unit of wraithblades.

**Mr. Shine**

No.

A Wraithseer is not a unit of Wraithguard, Wraithblades or a Wraithlord.

**Belly**

No. And he cant join a unit either.

**DarkPhoenix**

But he is independent character...
I had a hope there something like "count as wraithlord" but no. What a sham.

**Imateria**

DarkPhoenix wrote:
But he is independent character...
I had a hope there something like "count as wraithlord" but no. What a sham.

He is a Monstrous Creature though, which is what stops him.

**Quanar**

The IC rules prevent an IC from joining a unit of MC's, but doesn't care if the IC himself is one (unless trying to attach two MCIC's), so he can join a unit of Wraithblades or Wraithguard (or other unit) but not a Wraithlord (as the Wraithlord is a MC). Majority toughness comes into play, but he's still safer sometimes.
(Sorry if straying off-topic, the OP said without joining a unit)

**Ghaz**

Quanar wrote:
The IC rules prevent an IC from joining a unit of MC's, but doesn't care if the IC himself is one (unless trying to attach two MCIC's), so he can join a unit of Wraithblades or Wraithguard (or other unit) but not a Wraithlord (as the Wraithlord is a MC). Majority toughness comes into play, but he's still safer sometimes.
(Sorry if straying off-topic, the OP said without joining a unit)

From the Main Rulebook FAQ

Q: If a Monstrous Creature is also an Independent Character, can it join other units? Can other Independent Characters then join the unit that the Monstrous Creature is now a part of?

A: No, to both question.

**Quanar**

Ghaz wrote:
From the Main Rulebook FAQ

Q: If a Monstrous Creature is also an Independent Character, can it join other units? Can other Independent Characters then join the unit that the Monstrous Creature is now a part of?

A: No, to both question.

Oh, must've missed that one, thanks Ghaz!

**DarkPhoenix**

Ghaz wrote:
Q: If a Monstrous Creature is also an Independent Character, can it join other units? Can other Independent Characters then join the unit that the Monstrous Creature is now a part of?

A: No, to both question.

Thank you, did not see that FAQ. Thats a shame.

**Jimsolo**

An MC who is an IC should be able to join units of MCs.

**Lord Perversor**

Maybe but the rules says they can't.

In fact an MC (IC) should have free reign to join both normal units and Lone IC ( since the IC rule should overwrite the MC unit) but GW FAQ ruled they can't.