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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/15 02:08:05
Subject: (new players need rules clarifications) mutliple blast template hitting the same model in a unit
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi ! me and my friends have a bit of an arguments about this rules, and we cant find any clear answer in the BRB. We (all together ) have played 3 or 4 games in our lives so far, so were very unsure about the rules.
2 Fictive situation :
Lets say I have a unit of Necron Tomb blade, who shoots 3 smalls blast who ignores cover, and I target a 20 models unit of a cheap troop with no defense, like the cultists. My AP is high enough so that any cultist hit are auto-killed.
He spread his model alot (all while keeping unit coherency, and whatnot. ) so, he have a very long line of cultist across the map. I aim at the center of the squad, and can only target 3 cultists at most, because they are sospread out.
all 3 blast hit dead on, on his 3 cultists, giving him 9 wounds.
He dont have any save ... so how does he allocate his wounds ?
imo, only the 3 targeted cultist are dead ... because the others where never threatened by the blast.
But he say I must give out the wound to the closest cultist from my tomb blade units, and ignore the 3 blasts, and thus 9 cultists are dead .. even if only 3 where originally hit.
according to the rules, "any Wounds inflicted by weapons with the Blast special rule must be allocated to the closest model in the target unit even if it is out of sight of any models from the attacking unit"
but that just give me the info that if the blast scatters, LOS dont protect the models ...
Situation 2 :
in the same way, he have only 4 man squad of another kind of unit with low armor, that wont be allowed a save, but they are joined up with a tanky hero ( like 2+ 3++ ), said hero laggin a inch or two at the back of his unit. My blast scatters, and hit ONLY the hero. all 3 blasts.
I would auto-kill 3 models in the front of his unit, and he must make a leadership test, because he lost more than 50% of his guys, despite the hero having the ability to save the wounds easily ?
Any clear answer on this would help us alot !
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/02/15 02:13:48
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/15 02:17:45
Subject: (new players need rules clarifications) mutliple blast template hitting the same model in a unit
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Unless noted otherwise, you always allocate wounds to the closest model. All the blast marker and template do is generate hits, instead of rolling to hit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/15 04:26:57
Subject: (new players need rules clarifications) mutliple blast template hitting the same model in a unit
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Happyjew wrote:Unless noted otherwise, you always allocate wounds to the closest model. All the blast marker and template do is generate hits, instead of rolling to hit.
hoo, I see ok. Thats a simple way to look at it.
Still a bit weird, and would surely makes tyrannid and other horde user hard ... but at least it's clear.
Thanks !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/15 17:39:49
Subject: (new players need rules clarifications) mutliple blast template hitting the same model in a unit
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Happyjew wrote:Unless noted otherwise, you always allocate wounds to the closest model. All the blast marker and template do is generate hits, instead of rolling to hit.
Is this true when the blast is from a barrage weapon? Or are the shots counted as coming from the center of the template?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/15 17:58:52
Subject: (new players need rules clarifications) mutliple blast template hitting the same model in a unit
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Kryddbov wrote: Happyjew wrote:Unless noted otherwise, you always allocate wounds to the closest model. All the blast marker and template do is generate hits, instead of rolling to hit.
Is this true when the blast is from a barrage weapon? Or are the shots counted as coming from the center of the template?
With barrage you count the hits as coming from the center of the blast marker. So in his scenario with all the blasts hitting the one guy in the back, the wounds would first be allocated to him until he died, then to the next closest and so on.
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Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
Northern VA/Southern MD |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/15 20:32:41
Subject: (new players need rules clarifications) mutliple blast template hitting the same model in a unit
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Barrage simply changes where the shot is coming from--the hole rather than the shooting unit.
Compare the wording of "Stomp" for Super Heavies to the wording of blasts and see how it's different. Stomp removes the models specifically under the template, and that is a rare and strange exception to the normal rules.
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