Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Please, tell me if you dont understand anything, I dont play in english so I may use wrong words for some technical names)

Warlord Traits must be rolled "just before the deploiment" and Phychic Powers "At the beggining of the game".

Taking this into account, we can assume that Phychic Powers are before Warlord Traits, because Warlord Traits are "JUST BEFORE...".

However, there are some Warlord Traits that change something in the generation of Phychic Powers, so, we it has sense to do the opposite secuence (WT before PP).


What is the right secuence of rolls?
May it be at the same time? (Like demonic gifts and warlord traits are, so we can choose to rerroll or change for the primaris depending on the other results on the other charts.)

From the Rulebook under "‘Before the Game Begins’ and ‘At the End of the Game'"

During your game, you may encounter rules that say that an action or event happens ‘before the game begins’. Examples of such events include generating Warlord Traits and psychic powers. These are always resolved before the armies deploy for battle.

This quote seems to suggest to me that there is no order of operations before the game begins, everything is simply classified as "before the game begins", so order does not matter.

Since Warlord trait generation says "immediately before deploying the first model" I would say you roll psychic powers first if you're worried about order, but if there is a chance to roll a power which affects psychic power generation then common sense would suggest rolling the warlord trait first as that is very clearly the intention.

Bojazz wrote:
From the Rulebook under "‘Before the Game Begins’ and ‘At the End of the Game'"

During your game, you may encounter rules that say that an action or event happens ‘before the game begins’. Examples of such events include generating Warlord Traits and psychic powers. These are always resolved before the armies deploy for battle.

This quote seems to suggest to me that there is no order of operations before the game begins, everything is simply classified as "before the game begins", so order does not matter.

Since Warlord trait generation says "immediately before deploying the first model" I would say you roll psychic powers first if you're worried about order, but if there is a chance to roll a power which affects psychic power generation then common sense would suggest rolling the warlord trait first as that is very clearly the intention.

In Fact one of the new Warlord traits from Fracture of Biel-Tan allow your Warlord if it's a psyker to choose it's powers intead rolling.