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Have a tournament this weekend, shouldn't be madly competitive but I personally would rather like to win and stomp some face.

I have submitted the list below, any thoughts on how I should run it, pit falls to be aware of or obvious goofs I've made would be much appreciated.

1500 points

Chaos Daemons : CAD

Fateweaver (warlord)
Nurgle Daemon Prince, Grimore, balesword, lvl2 Psyker, wings


11x Blue Horrors
11x Blue Horrors

Tzeencth Daemon Prince, Wings, Lv2, Impossible robe and Lesser staff

Chaos Space Amrined; Word Bearers : Allied Detachment

Nurgle Daemon Prince, Wings, lvl 3, tome

10x Cultists

Heldrake, baleflamer

Looks not bad.

Having "only" 3 FMC and one Heldrake for 1500pts, your list should be claimed to be a very friendly list among "Flying Circus" type list. I once got tabled by a 1850pts list with 4 winged Daemon Prince (Inferno Tetra) and 3 Heldrakes (the Terror Pack).

For psychic powers I would suggest rolling 3/4 powers from your Nurgle DP on maelefic to take advantage of legion rules (last one on Nurgle of course). If he doesn't get cursed earth try getting it on one of your other DPs (this will really help, giving your Tzeentch 2++ re-rollable and Fatey 3++ re-rolling 1s).

With any ML you have left (after rolling 1 on God powers) try grabbing psychic shriek <-- Such a devestating power when you get lucky. This won't give you a lot of anti-armour but that's what Fatey's SD is for.

Grimoire wants to be put on the Heldrake (It's a waste on the others) so he gets a 3++/2++ with cursed earth.

Generally everything that can fly wants to stay flying and your ground forces want to find an objective in cover and stay there.

I would have the Grotti prince pair with the Heldrake since the Heldrake isn't effected by it and it's the only one carrying a dedicated anti-toughness weapon. It might also be an idea to have the Grotti DP somewhere where it can easily swoop back to support the Cultists should they get into trouble (S3 weapons are rubbish vs T4, but T3...).

That's my general advise taking a quick look at your list, you'll want to have your own tactics and a few tricks for dealing with certain armies. Hope this helps!

Where do you see a Grotti in his list, can't find him (maybe because he is a Nurgling)? =)

List looks good.

I don't know if flying with every Prince is a good tactic. Maybe with the Word Bearers Prince and Fateweaver. The Prince with the Robe is a waste in the air in my opinion, but maybe i am wrong here?


Also it seems you are about 10 points over your pointlimit. So if it does matter you should kick 2 blue horrors.

 Darksider wrote:
Where do you see a Grotti in his list, can't find him (maybe because he is a Nurgling)? =)

I seem to have imagened Grotti up from no where, that's always a good sign.

List looks good.

I don't know if flying with every Prince is a good tactic. Maybe with the Word Bearers Prince and Fateweaver. The Prince with the Robe is a waste in the air in my opinion, but maybe i am wrong here?

Depends on the opponant and whether you get cursed earth off, against most opponants it would smash face but if you come across that one guy who still spams DK or WK or anything with S10 cc (and if you are unlucky with cursed earth) then just one failed save would be 300+pts down the toilet.

 mrhappyface wrote:

 Darksider wrote:
Where do you see a Grotti in his list, can't find him (maybe because he is a Nurgling)? =)

I seem to have imagened Grotti up from no where, that's always a good sign.

List looks good.

I don't know if flying with every Prince is a good tactic. Maybe with the Word Bearers Prince and Fateweaver. The Prince with the Robe is a waste in the air in my opinion, but maybe i am wrong here?

Depends on the opponant and whether you get cursed earth off, against most opponants it would smash face but if you come across that one guy who still spams DK or WK or anything with S10 cc (and if you are unlucky with cursed earth) then just one failed save would be 300+pts down the toilet.

Haha maybe Nurgle wants to bless you=).


Yeah sure it depends on the opponent, if you want to fly or if you want to stay on the ground. Do you really think that malefic is the best for daemon flying circus? No love for Biomancy anymore it seems, as the most people recommand malefic and telepathy over it.

 Darksider wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

 Darksider wrote:
Where do you see a Grotti in his list, can't find him (maybe because he is a Nurgling)? =)

I seem to have imagened Grotti up from no where, that's always a good sign.

List looks good.

I don't know if flying with every Prince is a good tactic. Maybe with the Word Bearers Prince and Fateweaver. The Prince with the Robe is a waste in the air in my opinion, but maybe i am wrong here?

Depends on the opponant and whether you get cursed earth off, against most opponants it would smash face but if you come across that one guy who still spams DK or WK or anything with S10 cc (and if you are unlucky with cursed earth) then just one failed save would be 300+pts down the toilet.

Haha maybe Nurgle wants to bless you=).


Yeah sure it depends on the opponent, if you want to fly or if you want to stay on the ground. Do you really think that malefic is the best for daemon flying circus? No love for Biomancy anymore it seems, as the most people recommand malefic and telepathy over it.

I find Biomancy is best on Slaanesh Princes with a whip, Nurgle princes are best with the 2+ jink and Tzeentch princes have the staff of change if they need to beat face (Biomancy would be best on Khorne princes but the Khorne prince gets no love).

Hm yeah can agree with that statement^^.

Found Biomancy on Nurgleprinces also very good, but i think times have changed.

Hope when 8th edition get released, that assault will be more viable without psy (and psy gets a slight nerf).

Wiat, CD princes are HQs? You have fatey + 2 HQs in the CD cad.

I might be wrong tho.

 gummyofallbears wrote:
Wiat, CD princes are HQs? You have fatey + 2 HQs in the CD cad.

I might be wrong tho.

They are HQs but Fatey makes Tzeentch princes HS.

Thanks for the feedback lads.

Definitely no GrottI in the list - in a perfect world I'd bring him, but he is a little pricy when I could bring 2 greater rewards or 8 blue horrors for the same price.

Re paychic; I used to run biomancy all day every day on my princes - but it seems like everyone else I have begun relying on shriek more and more.
The buff for word bearers on summoning is fantastic btw.
I forgot to write in spell familiar above (but there is one there), harnessing on a 3+ with a reroll is unreal - summoning on 4 dice nearly every turn is fantastic!

Consider having a lvl 3 Tz prince from an alpha legion attachment with dragonscale armor. Built in 2+ armor save for 300 points!

That and your cultists gain infiltrate.

Grim Squeaker wrote:Thanks for the feedback lads.

Definitely no GrottI in the list - in a perfect world I'd bring him, but he is a little pricy when I could bring 2 greater rewards or 8 blue horrors for the same price.

Re paychic; I used to run biomancy all day every day on my princes - but it seems like everyone else I have begun relying on shriek more and more.
The buff for word bearers on summoning is fantastic btw.
I forgot to write in spell familiar above (but there is one there), harnessing on a 3+ with a reroll is unreal - summoning on 4 dice nearly every turn is fantastic!

Yeah noticed this also a lot. Maybe it's because of D Weapons and Deathstars everywhere, so Ironarm is good but not good enough.

Okay but you seem to be over 1500 points with the familiar and the horrors. About 25 points.

Lord Commissar wrote:Consider having a lvl 3 Tz prince from an alpha legion attachment with dragonscale armor. Built in 2+ armor save for 300 points!

That and your cultists gain infiltrate.

Hm don't like this version of the CSM prince. Sucks to grav and has to roll one power on the lackluster tzeentch table.


By the way can some of you guys help me with my flying circus? Made also a thread for it, but until now i got no responses=(.

Why do people keep thinking I'm over on my points?

Fatey - 300
Nurgle prince with book - 300
CSM prince - 300
Tzeencth Prince - 270

Cultists + horrors - 160
Heldrake -170

1500 on the nose!

Darksider I shall check out your thread now!

Has anyone else tried a Word Bearers prince for summoning?
Fantastic! In my last game he was a power house, popping summoning and incursion every turn more or less - doubled his points basically by the end of the game

Nope you're over 1500 points, because your tzeentch prince is more than 270 points in the configuration you posted.

You said Wings, ML2, Robes, lesser Gift and Daemon of Tzeentch which is in my book 295 points.

Don't know how do you get on 270 points, maybe you forgot to add the robes?


Thanks for checking it out^^.

Yeah tried it and the prince is really awesome for summoning=).

Ah - thw tzeentch prince is mastery level 1 (just so he can deny better and get a psychic shriek) - typo in the inital list. Doh


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I would suggest you roll on Fateweaver first rather than any of the other daemons. He has to roll of specific tables so with the 2 Maelific rolls first tells you which head you are likely to use. This lets you then decide if you have to roll on certain disciplines to get a specific spell.