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 Daedalus81 wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
Tabletop Tactics just released a video on the points, where the very first thing they said was they had no input on the point values at all; they were fixed by GW long ago, before Tabletop Tactics was even involved in the playtesting, and no changes were made in response to feedback after they got involved (which was more than 6 months ago). Just another data point suggesting that these points values were done on a spreadsheet and then not really revised based on playtester feedback, at least not in 2020.

Probably also explains why so many of the values seem like they were derived from pre-CA 2019 values - it's possible they literally were. These points were done in 2019 and haven't been modified since.



You talking the Iron Warriors v Eldar video?

No. It's a video on YouTube with Bbone and Chef specifically talking about the points and some other stuff. No game. I'd give you a link but for some reason YouTube links never work for me on dakka.
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
No. It's a video on YouTube with Bbone and Chef specifically talking about the points and some other stuff. No game. I'd give you a link but for some reason YouTube links never work for me on dakka.


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Good show Trickstick! I salute your superior internet fu.
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Good show Trickstick! I salute your superior internet fu.


Do you code your youtube links when you try to use them? I just slap some {youtube}thing{/youtube} around it, just with [ instead.

The Tvashtan 422nd "Fire Leopards" - Updated 19/03/11

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor 
   
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 Trickstick wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Good show Trickstick! I salute your superior internet fu.


Do you code your youtube links when you try to use them? I just slap some {youtube}thing{/youtube} around it, just with [ instead.

No, I'll try that. Thanks.

@Daedalus: You should check out the video. They have some interesting things to say about the new points. Remember, TT didn't have any input on these points, they've been playtesting the new codexes.

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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
No, I'll try that. Thanks.


BBCode is the only code I know. It doesn't really open a lot of job opportunities though...

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 catbarf wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
Tabletop Tactics just released a video on the points, where the very first thing they said was they had no input on the point values at all; they were fixed by GW long ago, before Tabletop Tactics was even involved in the playtesting, and no changes were made in response to feedback after they got involved (which was more than 6 months ago). Just another data point suggesting that these points values were done on a spreadsheet and then not really revised based on playtester feedback, at least not in 2020.

Probably also explains why so many of the values seem like they were derived from pre-CA 2019 values - it's possible they literally were. These points were done in 2019 and haven't been modified since.


I mentioned in another thread that I suspected this was the case- so many of the units showing pre-CA19 points, including hard reversals like Scions, Killa Kans and Deff Dreads, suggested less of a deliberate hike and more of a reversion.

Hey, what are the chances GW will release a points update soon? Surely they wouldn't just release an already-out-of-date product and leave it to languish for months? They'd never do that, right?
This just means they can sell CA2019 points to us twice.

Jokes on them tho, I'm not buying either.
   
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 Ordana wrote:
 catbarf wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
Tabletop Tactics just released a video on the points, where the very first thing they said was they had no input on the point values at all; they were fixed by GW long ago, before Tabletop Tactics was even involved in the playtesting, and no changes were made in response to feedback after they got involved (which was more than 6 months ago). Just another data point suggesting that these points values were done on a spreadsheet and then not really revised based on playtester feedback, at least not in 2020.

Probably also explains why so many of the values seem like they were derived from pre-CA 2019 values - it's possible they literally were. These points were done in 2019 and haven't been modified since.


I mentioned in another thread that I suspected this was the case- so many of the units showing pre-CA19 points, including hard reversals like Scions, Killa Kans and Deff Dreads, suggested less of a deliberate hike and more of a reversion.

Hey, what are the chances GW will release a points update soon? Surely they wouldn't just release an already-out-of-date product and leave it to languish for months? They'd never do that, right?
This just means they can sell CA2019 points to us twice.

Jokes on them tho, I'm not buying either.


Harsh but fair.

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GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
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