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Hi Guys

So i'm relatively new to 30k only played 1 game with my DA so far as a sort of learners game and got annihilated! So learning from that I have tried to put together a more rounded list. Its based on models that I have but to be honest they were mostly chosen due to the rule of cool and avoiding anything that would be replaced by legion specific units when we get them. My list is based around my meta which to be honest is really just my friend that I play that has SoH so lots of Justearin and Abbadon. I would appreciate any advice or thoughts.

Legion: Dark Angels

RoW: Pride of the Legion

HQ

Praetor
Tartos Terminator Armour
Combi-Grenade launcher
Stasis shells
Paragon Blade
Digital Lasers
Iron Halo

Lord Centurion
MC Terranic Great Sword
Artificer Armour
Refractor Field
Legion Champion Consul

Command Sq
DT-Land Raider Phobos (EA, Aux Drive)
Tartos Terminator Armour
Plasma Blaster
Combi-Grenade launcher
Stasis shells

Troops

10 Man Vet Tac Sq - Marksmen
DT-Rhino (EA, Aux Drive)
Vexilla
2xHeavy bolter with Suspensor Web
Molecular Acid Shells
Artificer Armour

10 man Vet Tac Sq - Marksmen
DT-Rhino (EA, Aux Drive)
Vexilla
2xHeavy bolter with Suspensor Web
Molecular Acid Shells
Artificer Armour

10 Man Vet Tac Sq - Marksmen
Vexilla
2xHeavy bolter with Suspensor Web
Molecular Acid Shells
Artificer Armour

10 Man Vet Tac Sq - Machine Killers
Vexilla
2xMissile Launcher with Suspensor Web
Stasis shells
Artificer Armour
2xFlakk

Heavy Support

Fire Raptor Gunship

Sicaran Venator
Lascannon Sponsons

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought
Siege Drill
Phosphex Discharger

I plan to run the 3 termies of the command sq with the Preator and the Centurion in the Phobos so the centurion can try and take out any characters with the TG and ID whilst the praetor and termies thin out the characters body guard. If/when the centurion fails the Preator can challenge next turn. I plan to start the Venator and the 2 vet sq without transports on the table, the vets on any objectives/ cover in my deployment zone, with the Venator hiding behind cover then making use of the fast special rule on my turn. I will either outflank the other vets or start them on the table running them as far up as quickly as possible. Not sure where to start the Leviathan as I could not afford the points for a drop pod I though I could start him in cover then charge him at any armour hoping that he doesn't get shot off the board first, at least it would take the pressure off everything else. I havent played against many fliers in my area so hoping the Fire Raptor and ML should handle something in the event it shows up.

What do you guys think? all C and C welcome.

so, a few things:
1) ditch the sponsons on the ventaor, since they snapshot if the main gun fires.
2) It might be a good Idea to swap away from the limits of PotL (unless you're trying to run a fluffy Veteran company), and swap to generic tactical squads with a few heavy support teams for your stasis shenanigans

beyond that, it looks like a pretty decent list

Thanks for the feedback.

I added the sponsons more as a bit more protection against a weapon destroyed result and a fall back if the main gun got destroyed but I wasnt sure how effective a redundancy it would be.

I used pride of the legion to get the vets so i could get the HB with molecular acid shells because on paper they look like they could be very effective especially with sniper and gets a bit of the flavor of the legion into the list.

I didnt include any heavy support teams as I didnt think I had any HS slots left but I am quite new to making heresy lists so could be wrong on that.

Molecular acid shells are pretty good, but sniper doesn't give them much they didn't already have. If Pride is for access to those, consider Scimitar Jetbikes. These come stock with the heavy bolters (ready to receive an upgrade) and stay at full ranger usage (unlike suspensor web'd weapons). This allows you to drop to tac squads (as suggested).

I'll assume the Tartaros Praetor and associated squad is born of the Prospero box? I like Tartaros terminators, not too sure I like Tartaros Praetors. Naturally you need him armored such to get his command squad to follow, so is this for the invuls on the squad? If so, solid. If not, you can save points there by giving the Praetor artificer + iron halo and leaving the command squad in standard artificer armor.

I like the Terranic Champion. I run one too. With a stasis shell, this man's got roughly a 50/50 shot at killing Kharn before he swings!

Not a huge fan of auxiliary drives on rhinos. Especially not on Sniper Vets. Infiltrate (by extension Outflank) ensures you are where you need to be almost immediately, making immobilization a moot point.

The Sicarian, as equipped, rivals a pair of Laser Destroyer Vindicators in points (30pts more nets the two Vindicators). Obvious a Laser Destroyer isn't a Neutron Laser, but two Laser Destroyers might be.

Yes thats the main reason for PotL I thought that acid shells with precision shots and that the back up of rending might make a very formidable unit but I am open to the idea of using the bikes as I currently have no fast attack as is. The other reason for doing that was also that it gave me 4 scoring units all be it with low model counts.

The inv save with sweeping advance was the main reason for going with Tartaros and like you said the only reason the Preator is in it is to get the command sq in it. I took the champion with AA and IH instead as I recon that is the better build for when I attempt to kit bash him.

You hit the nail on the head again with the Prospero box I was slowly getting into 30k by buying the awesome but expensive MKII kits in resin and my second favourite was MKIII so Prospero was irresistible and that gave me the idea for the command squad and the champion was an idea I took of this forum so it may well have been your idea that I borrowed! Thanks it sounds like an awesome choice and hopefully he may get lucky against Abbadon who was the thorn in my side in my 1st game.

I may well drop the Rhinos, PotL and switch to 15/20 man tac sqs, a vet sq with ML and stasis shells (as my HS slots are full) with jet bikes if in your experience that would be more effective?

I have the Sicaran in as I love the model and got bought one so with the prospect of having to buy some jet bikes might leave that in for now just due to model costs of getting 2 new vindicators and jetbikes.

I admit to not having used the jetbikes yet as my first purchases were geared toward an Ironwing Protocol RoW. That said, I have a few on deck to be built as my next 1500-2000pts of purchases will see me able to field Proto-Ravenwing as well. In those, HB Scimitar squads will be a staple.

I read somewhere else on this forum that one player made 20man tac squads a staple of every list (w/ plugged apothecaries). A couple of those with a rhino-mounted stasis ML vet squad could make a good foundation. I've found stasis to be more or less a one-turn-wonder (IE - never had to use it more than once), but then I run a 6-7 man vet tac squad with power swords as escort for my Praetor (with either a Chaplain of Champion to go along). They're easily capable of putting down three times their number in 3+ saves.

I was wondering that with the stasis shells and whether I would get more than one use from them its why I like the combi-grenade launchers.

So after what you said I liked the idea and thought I would try and throw a list together that might work better than PotL and include some of the ideas you had.

HQ

Praetor
Tartos Terminator Armour
Combi-Grenade launcher
Stasis shells
Paragon Blade
Digital Lasers
Iron Halo

Lord Centurion
Terranic Great Sword
Artificer Armour
Refractor Field
Legion Champion Consul

Command Sq (3)
Land Raider Phobos - Extra Armour
Tartos Terminator Armour
Plasma Blaster

Elites

Apothecarion Detatchment (2)
2x Artificer Armour
Combi-Grenade launcher
Stasis shells

Veteran Tac Sq (10) - Machine Killers
DT - Rhino - Extra armour
Vexilla
2xMissile Launcher with Suspensor Web
Stasis shells
Artificer Armour
2xFlakk

Troops

Tac Sq (15)
Additional CCWs
Vexilla
Combi-Grenade launcher
Stasis shells
Calabanite Warblade
Artificer Armour

Tac Sq (15)
Additional CCWs
Vexilla
Combi-Grenade launcher
Stasis shells
Calabanite Warblade
Artificer Armour

Fast Attack

Jetbike Skyhunter Sq
3x Melta Bombs
Molecular Acid Shells

Heavy Support

Fire Raptor Gunship

Sicaran Venator

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought
Siege Drill
Phosphex Discharger

I love the idea of vets with power swords but I just dont think they would stand up to the meta Im expecting to play, lots of 2+ and for the regular troops im hoping the tac sq will be able to hack most normal marines apart hitting on 3+ every round and with stasis on the first round of combat hitting first too.

Despite thinking the stasis may be a 1 trick pony for most squads I have the ML vets in there as if a squad can get into a second combat they should be able to hit first and help. Even if not its still 2 ML and a small extra bit of AA.