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I played against an 1850 Tau list intentionally toned down and won with my "probably the best my army can actually bring" pure IG list. He had a Commander with 4 marker drones, 2 units of Fire Warriors and an Ethereal, some sniper drones with controller, 2 broadsides with a couple drones, DS stealth suits, outflanking piranhas, bleachers in a devilish, and two Riptides. Tau can be in a lot of trouble if they don't go first, and with my IG having a good amount of Ignores Cover, that Tau army was without its Devilfish or any of its Breachers and down plenty of Fire Warriors before they even got to move.

Now having some real experience against Tau, I can safely say they're a lot more fun to play when they bring lots of infantry, don't have formations, don't pack a Stormsurge, but still pose a challenge to beat. My game would've been a draw if one of his Riptides didn't fail a 5" charge to kill my Pasknisher at 1 HP then consolidate into my deployment zone for StW and linebreaker. Even with a fantastic first turn, I was by no means guaranteed to win, and the fact that it was anyone's game during the whole game is what really makes games more fun.
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Disembarking and not being able to charge straight away, especially with a lack of LoS-blocking terrain, is just ringing the dinner bell. Getting to your target in 1.5 turns means nothing if you have to wait around an extra turn to get shot to bits, especially Tau shooting. It's silly not to admit Martel has a very solid point when it comes to BA v Tau, especially on a parking lot.
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Martel732 wrote:
All of those things should also probably cost more as well. TWC: way undercosted. IG psykers: undercosted. Wuflen: WAY undercosted. Void shields: undercosted


I'd agree on every other example you mention, but as for the IG psykers bit... are you sure about that?

50 points for a T3 W2 model with a 5+/5++, for 50 points. Yep, a warp charge, a primaris power plus one randomly generated power, but for another 25 points you can obtain, get this, another warp charge and another randomly generated power! What a steal! Those librarians and their power armor and their bikes don't stand a chance against the undercosted-ness of the Primaris Psyker!

Seriously, IG's HQ psykers are balanced, if not just a little overcosted. They are very expensive given how incredibly fragile they are, but are generally effective force multipliers. It doesn't make guardsmen they buff way OTT OP though. It's still mostly just lasgun shots. Except those rare occasions where they sometimes Rend (and do you really think giving IG infantry an option to deal with those crazy tough MCs is really gamebreaking? Or maybe those occasions where you can get that 4++ on a blob. Regular guardsmen getting a 50/50 non-rerollable save (unless you're in combat and you get a priest hymn off, which is actually fairly difficult to accomplish)? Inconceivably cheesy, am I right? Guardsmen should come off the table as soon as the opponent looks at them funny, right?

Unless you're referring to the Elites choice Wyrdvane Psykers, in which case I'm not even sure where to begin.
 
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