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i saw this list i would like to play but my imcoming tournament wont let pieces over 500pts to be played, so im wondering what i should use beside Magnus the red, renegade IK, helldrakes? ty for hints

This is what Ive been running until I can get the $$ for Magnus to run a similar list. It not exactly what your replacing as it's not a shooting battery, but the second threat presence from an invisible D thirster is not to be ignored.
Hope it helps!

++ Formation Detachment (Chaos Daemons: Codex) [455pts] ++

+ Formation [455pts] +

Heralds Anarchic [455pts]
Herald of Tzeentch [145pts]: Disc of Tzeentch [25pts], Paradox [25pts], Psyker Level 3 [50pts]
Herald of Tzeentch [150pts]: D6 Exalted Daemonic Reward [30pts], Disc of Tzeentch [25pts], Psyker Level 3 [50pts]
Herald of Tzeentch [70pts]: Disc of Tzeentch [25pts], Psyker Level 1
Herald of Tzeentch [45pts]: Psyker Level 1
Herald of Tzeentch [45pts]: Psyker Level 1

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Chaos Daemons: Codex) [940pts] ++

+ HQ [650pts] +

Be'lakor, The Dark Master [350pts]

Kairos Fateweaver [300pts]

+ Troops [90pts] +

Brimstone Horrors [30pts]: 10x Brimstone Horrors [30pts]

Brimstone Horrors [30pts]: 10x Brimstone Horrors [30pts]

Brimstone Horrors [30pts]: 10x Brimstone Horrors [30pts]

+ Fast Attack [200pts] +

Screamers of Tzeentch [200pts]: 8x Screamers [200pts]

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Chaos Daemons: Codex) [455pts] ++

+ HQ [345pts] +

Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage [345pts]: Armour of Scorn [30pts], 2x D6 Greater Daemonic Reward [40pts], Great Axe of Khorne

+ Troops [110pts] +

Blue Horrors [55pts]: 11x Blue Horrors [55pts]

Blue Horrors [55pts]: 11x Blue Horrors [55pts]


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Obviously exalted reward on herald is grimoire for screamers. Greater rewards on thirster are blade of blood and whatever the better roll was(blade give him rampage and Another ap 2 weapon to hit at initiative. Also unsure if it gets the extra attack as the D axe and blood blade are both specialists weapons). Bel'akor hangs behind thirster to keep him invisible. Paradox summon some stuff. The thing about this list is it's not 100% summoning OR psyker shooting. It reacts as needed with the dual threat presence of screamers and thirster. If they come into the backline than your horrors can flickering fire the gak out that. If they leaving the backline alone than keep pumping out more units.

Remember that burning Chariots from a flying kairos are amazing for board control. Even if it's not Magnus and his beefy 2+ summoning it's still quite handy.

ty appreciated, BT wont get extra attacks because he is using a 2 hand weapon and if i remember well cant hit on initiative also if use another weapon, colossal weapon makes always strike at ini1 just for the fact you own it ( i didn't check but seems like that)

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ty appreciated, BT wont get extra attacks because he is using a 2 hand weapon and if i remember well cant hit on initiative also if use another weapon, colossal weapon makes always strike at ini1 just for the fact you own it ( i didn't check but seems like that)

That is how the BT's colossal rule is worded (but not on the IKs thunder gauntlet)

The blade of blood is worded the same as the D-axe. Having both, you get the I1 attacks AND rampage. I dislike the ruling being a 180 from the IK gauntlet, but it gives you rampage at ALL times.