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I swear there was another bad event in that town/city.

This ain't the first gun related incident in that place?

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
I swear there was another bad event in that town/city.

This ain't the first gun related incident in that place?

Lone wolf attack previously by an Islamic Extremist. I believe his wife is still on the run.

That's plain bad luck. Twice.

Cue go on about gun restrictions' in a rather tight state. Heck Chicago is tight as hell but they still have gun crime rather badly.
Special needs school section.. What kind of sick feth did this one.. :(

 whembly wrote:

Prestor Jon wrote:
I'm pretty sure that a domestic violence conviction would prohibit someone from lawfully owning a firearm in CA so we may see someone get charged with an illegal sale.

Yup. That makes you a "prohibited possessor" in CA. (if the conviction is true of course)

Illegal purchase or stolen. Its probbly pretty unlikely that's a legally owned weapon.
Not forgetting the killer could of stolen thr gun off someone he knew?

 Frazzled wrote:
Traditional families are...well the majority of the world so I don't see what you're getting at Canuck. *


*One of my took wearing comrades came back with boxes of maple creme cookies. Dear Dog, Maple syrup Oreos! no wonder you people are so mellow.

See now this is why Canada is so chill.
That and a strategic reserve of maple syrup!

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 feeder wrote:

 redleger wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
And then there's this:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/04/10/why-isnt-the-media-pointing-out-that-the-san-bernardino-shooter-was-an-outspoken-christian/

If true, you'll note/remember how quickly MSM jumped on the previous SB attack for them being Muslims. Why isn't it being reported that this guy was Christian??

So he shot the ex wife for being a nonChristian? Else your comparison in-apt.

Agree, I don't think this is radical Christian abortion clinic bombing area. I think this is a sick individual, who was not radicalized committing an atrocity. Unless we find a note, motive, or something to that effect it would be hard pressed to call this religious zealotyr. Problem is with Muslim extremism, it all has its roots in teaching from some Imam somewhere, so then it falls in that category. I am not sure this fits in the hole your trying to place this peg.

Eh, you could make a case for all the "traditional family" crap that is preached over here as a motive for shooting his ex. It would be pure speculation, of course, but when has that ever stopped us from coming to firm conclusions with flimsy evidence.

Feeder has the general gist of it. . . If they found out he was Muslim, they would be speculating for days what his motives *really* were, who radicalized him, etc. etc. but because he was an outspoken Christian, there is not a peep as to what he was preaching, what he received from other preachers, what was going on in the churches he attended, all of which could very well have helped put him into the frame of mind to do what he did. I don't want to suggest he had terrorist motives, but an exploration of his religious views could lead to some fruit.

A very careful investigation into the church's he attended and such is in order.
More for the fact if someone did know or did have a part to play in this they deserve get there dues.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

First you make mention that the previous San Bernadino shooting was reported as religiously motivated because it actually was, you then pivot to ask why this case is not being religiously motivated when religion has not been shown to be a motivating fator, and you then try to defend your position by pointing out shoddy journalism in a third separate incident.

You ask "Why isn't it being reported that this guy was Christian", but you need to show why it should be reported that he was a Christian. Unless it is shown that religious was his motivation for this attack then it has as much relevance as what is favorite meal is, what TV show he watched, or how he put toilet roll in it's holder.

It turned out that the first SB shooting was religiously motivated. What I'm saying is that the media reported on the religious aspect, speculating whether there was a connection long before it was confirmed there was one. So in 2 examples, one in which it turns out religion was a causal aspect of an incident, and one in which it played no part, the media hyped the religious angle.... That speculation has been completely missing from this incident, perhaps because he was Christian, which apparently affords special treatment.

It also comes down to fact while extreme christians exist the percentage of incidents, especially in Europe is heavily tilted to Islamic aligned groups or extremist individuals. Right now they re one of the most active hostile groups.

Here's a point it seems. While terror groups exist for all religions. They seem to be more confined often to own areas of interest or conflict in the non Islamic sections.

Islamic groups seem to be the ones mostly who do engage in attacks outside there own border across far wider areas and only ones to modern world attack across continents apart.

IRA did attack mainland UK but not Europe etc yet ISIS has mounted attacks across middle east, Libya, Europe, likely tried America.

It could be said our intervention caused this however this phenomenon of attacking countries thousands of miles from area of conflict is pretty unique to the Islamist section of terror community.