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For the lore of my 40k stories, I want a campaign in a jungle world controlled by the Squats(if they're still canon) but are in a civil war, with the squats on the planet wanting to join the Tau, and the humans wanting to remain loyal to the Imperium; would it be out of character for squats to take up guerrilla warfare and use their natural digging abilities as dwarves to construct a network of tunnels underground from which they can carry out their hit and run strikes, to the headache of the Imperium?

Sure why not. IN a galaxy with space elves, angry space elves, and guys flying space ships and driving tanks close to the enemy so they can stab them with their sword, anything is possible.

To be specific, there is nothing wrong with the fluff. Vietcong dwarves is definitely an interesting and unique take. Thoughts on using this concept for an army list?

I think the squats are still kinda cannon in that their worlds were devoured by Tyranids destroying their people and culture.

Therefore, GW isn't denying that they ever existed just explaining why they are gone.

It is very possible that isolated pockets of Squats still exist and have adapted their culture to suit their new worlds or have been absorbed into Imperial culture like those on your jungle world.

Abhumans and mutants are reviled by the Imperium, the Squats used to have a special status when they were strong but I doubt that continues now, so it would not surprise me if the remaining Squats wanted to join the Tau!

If I remember there was also the Demigur, who were suppose to be similar to squats and were allied with the tau.

Squat Cong. I fething love it! You going to give them the hats and the "AK" bolters?

In a universe with gung-ho jungle fighting "love you long time" GIs, it's a natural fit to have tunnel fighting short people.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
If I remember there was also the Demigur, who were suppose to be similar to squats and were allied with the tau.

yeah they came up in BFG

While Not necessarily directly allied with the Tau. A few houses of Demigur were known to trade directly with the Tau on a regular basis

But the Demigur as basically Squats who live in massive mining barges traveling system to system to collect the vast mineral wealth that can be found.

GodDamUser wrote:

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
If I remember there was also the Demigur, who were suppose to be similar to squats and were allied with the tau.

yeah they came up in BFG

While Not necessarily directly allied with the Tau. A few houses of Demigur were known to trade directly with the Tau on a regular basis

But the Demigur as basically Squats who live in massive mining barges traveling system to system to collect the vast mineral wealth that can be found.

Frazzled wrote:Sure why not. IN a galaxy with space elves, angry space elves, and guys flying space ships and driving tanks close to the enemy so they can stab them with their sword, anything is possible.

To be specific, there is nothing wrong with the fluff. Vietcong dwarves is definitely an interesting and unique take. Thoughts on using this concept for an army list?

I was thinking of having representing it using space marine scout rules; they have t4/s4 like fantasy dwarves, but also have rules like stealth which fits with the viet cong theme

Skinflint Games wrote:Squat Cong. I fething love it! You going to give them the hats and the "AK" bolters?

Hahaha, maybe

You should go for it. Just make sure the gear is WYSIWYG and you're good.

 Kroem wrote:
I think the squats are still kinda cannon in that their worlds were devoured by Tyranids destroying their people and culture.

Therefore, GW isn't denying that they ever existed just explaining why they are gone.

It is very possible that isolated pockets of Squats still exist and have adapted their culture to suit their new worlds or have been absorbed into Imperial culture like those on your jungle world.

Abhumans and mutants are reviled by the Imperium, the Squats used to have a special status when they were strong but I doubt that continues now, so it would not surprise me if the remaining Squats wanted to join the Tau!

What is the source for their worlds being devoured?

My 7th ed books squats are clearly described as non-extinct abhumans. If this story about the destruction of their homeworlds is true, perhaps only those Squats on tour as part of the Imperial Guard / Navy etc survived

If this is the case, perhaps the squats in OP's question spent time fighting alongside some Catachans or similar jungle fighters, and ended up going native when posted on a tau world?

Theres no real source the tyranid thing happened. It all stems from an offhand joke made by an editor in response to a letter.

Thanks to Jean-Baptiste Garidel for link. According to blog squat/tyranid thing comes from this:


White Dwarf 240 (January 2000)
This is the issue that spawned forth the lies about the extinction of the Squats, in the Mailbox page (p. 97). The letter and response are below.

Letter from Concerned Squats Commander:
“WE WANT SQUATS!
Sorry, I just assumed this was how most people have been reacting since the Squats were dropped from the 40K universe. This race was the reason I joined the Games Workshop family in the first place. If I was so impatient back in mid-2nd edition and started collecting my second choice army (Space Marines), I would have quickly lost interest and never became the obsessed freak over the game that I am today.

The history and characteristics of the Squats are interesting and unique in the 40K universe. In the 2nd edition rules they were a mix of Orks, Imperial Guard, and Space Marines... with a grudge! The honor, toughness, and excellent weaponry (I would have loved to see a Mole Mortar in action) were the big draws to this under-appreciated army. Also, something very cool about the 40K universe was the fact that it was a sci-fi mirror of the Fantasy world. Nearly every race from Fantasy had its high-tech cousins represented in the 'far, distant future', and that's how the people liked it! Would you even consider robbing the Fantasy world of Dwarfs. With their wonderful weapons and bitter-sweet rivalry with the Elves? I don't think so! Nor should we players of 40K have to do without. Just the humble opinion of one dedicated fan. Tim Gutierrez”

Response from Games Workshop:
“Would you believe they were all eaten by the Tyranid invasion? Or, due to the Squats biker life style, everyone of the was arrested for disturbing the peace and sacrificed to the Emperor. Where do you think they get all of those souls anyway? All kidding aside, it doesn't seem likely the Squats will ever again see the light of day. When they were out they never seemed very popular, showed up at our stores, or tournaments, and didn't sell on top of all that [Note that this claim is directly contradicted by Jervis Johnson in 2002]. Their look was really outdated compared to the hundreds of other great Warhammer 40,000 models. Don't send us hate mail, it's just the cold hard facts of the 41st Millennium.”


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There is also an old black library trilogy that mentions it. Alot of fluff in those books is way off though, and their place in canon is shakey though. I trestingly a citadel journal says tge imperium conquerored the squats.


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There is also an old black library trilogy that mentions it. Alot of fluff in those books is way off though, and their place in canon is shakey though. Intrestingly a citadel journal says the imperium conquerored the squats, and makes no mention of tyrannids (no33 i think) .

There is also an email from jervis saying tyranid thing had been written into fluff, but never found any evidence this story exsists.

The fact they exist/ed pops up from time to time... but they are not the empire they once were

was expecting pictures for some reason heavily disappointed.

There are two ongoing squat pm blogs, and one other preatorian one with squats in it. Not bad seeing as they aint been official for years.

On original topic squats are about, and the tyranid thing is a fan myth with little basis. Squats tend to prefer rocky desolate worlds in fluff, but no reason they wouldnt go to a jungle if it was mineable.

Megaknob wrote:was expecting pictures for some reason heavily disappointed.

Here is a concept(made from photoshopping together a bunch of images i found)
http://imgur.com/a/OPnsD

One thing I've considering is making an elite group of them sort of like the 40k equivalent the slayer dwarves from fantasy; sort of like hardcore veterans who often partake in near suicidal missions but instead of their slaying dragons, their specialty is to shoot down Imperial Navy aircraft(their trophies will be aircraft panels with its identification number or the helmets/nametags of slain pilots) because the Imperium will have the advantage of airpower(much like how the US did in Vietnam) and the squats find that very dishonorable. Another thing is that because of their berserker nature, they can shrug off lasbolts unless the lasgun is set to its highest setting. They also use axes because that they're dwarves.