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Hello, I just got my first orks since the Gorkamorka game, and that would be from Shadow War of Armageddon. I tried to make an Evil Sunz tribe list, but advise is needed.

COMBINED ARMS DETACHMENT
Hq - Warboss (warbike, powerclaw) 110
Hq - Painboy (warbike, grot orderly) 80
Elite - Kommandos (5, 2x burna, boss nob/powerclaw, bosspole) 120
Elite - Nobz (8, waagh banner, warbikes, 3x powerclaw, 3x big choppa, bosspole) 475
Troops - Boyz (10, slugga+choppa, boss nob/big choppa+bosspole) 80 + Trukk (boarding plank) 45
Troops - Boyz (10, slugga+choppa, boss nob/big choppa+bosspole) 80 + Trukk (boarding plank) 45
Fast attack - Stormboyz (10, slugga+choppa, boss nob/powerclaw, bosspole) 130
Fast attack - Dakkajet (flyboss) 125
Fast attack - Dakkajet (flyboss) 125
Heavy support - Flash Gitz (5) 110 + Trukk (boarding plank) 45
Heavy support - Mek Gunz (3x traktor cannon) 90
Heavy support - Mek Gunz (3x traktor cannon) 90
Fortification - Void Shield Generator (2x extra shields) 100

TOTAL: 1850

Ok so are you familiar with the current ork codex and Waagh ghazghkull supplement? id advise to get them(available for free on Scribed) although 7th edition is rumored to becoming to an end. 8th edition is rumored to be coming out May, June or even July at some point. currently 7th is shooty edition and 8th is rumored to be more assault or at least buffing assault aka orks.

Having said that, you HQ choices are solid. Warboss and painboy on Bike will always be good.

Troops are ok, but id use PK over big choppa(ok if you have built already) and give the trukks a rocket and ram over a boarding plank.

normal biker boys are currently superior or preferred over nob bikers, as nob bikers are so expensive but yes still viable.

Im not sure about stormboyz atm as they are just boys that yes they have jumppacks but they are weak.

Atm multiple squads of a single deffkopta are preferred over flyers.

Flash gitz look fantastic but are mediocre for their points and BS. Lootas are the preferred choice here.

Mek gunz are great; either lobbas or basic kannons are preferred as Lootas are better anti-air than trakor cannons.

Although all of it could work as you have the VSG lol.

So yeah current edition (which like i said is subject to change soon) "competitive" orks list is like:(im not saying purchase these, just currently what is good BUT subject to change, so kinda redundant i guess but might give you an idea of where the meta may go)

HQ
Warboss bike
Painboy bike
(possibly ZhadSnark the Rippa (makes bikers troops))
(or Bik Mek on bike with KFF)
OR
MA Warboss + painboy in BW with MA nobz


Troops
2-3x10boyz+Nob in trukk
or
3x3-15 boy biker squads with a nob
(or gretchin to fill slots / pts)

Elites
2-3x 5-10 Tankbustas in Trukks with bomb squigs
MA nobz in trukks (see Bully Boyz Formation - Waagh ghazgkull Supplement)

Fast attack
Deffkoptas with rokkits
Warbuggies with rokkits
3-15 boy Bikers
OR
Nob bikers x 5

Heavy Support
2x 5-10 lootas
Mek Gunz with Lobbas or Kannons

Lord of War
BuzzGob'z Mig Mek Stompa

Have you got all these models yet or are planning on purchasing them? because hold off if you can.

Hi, I like the concept of your list, I'd like to suggest some changes though.

- Traktor kannons: you don't need 6 of them, 1-2 are certainly enough.

- You have a lot of unreliable or overcosted units like flash gitz, two flyers and nobz. Keep only a 1-2 of these units, maybe a single flyer. Regular bikes are way more effective than nob bikers, with the same amount of points you can field 2x11 warbikes with two nobz with bp and pk.

- Stormboyz and kommandos are not extremely effective too, play a bigger unit of stormboyz (20 or more) or leave them home, kommandos can be nice with snikrot. Burnas are probably too expensive, 2 big shootas or rokkits are way cheaper and they can be handy. Alternatively a cheap unit of 5 kommandos with 2 rokkits is only 60 points and can be harassing for the opponent.

- The vsg is not worth it, it can be nice when you need to protect the bullyboyz trukks, which are 700+ points on paper things.

- Never forget da lucky stikk on the warboss.

Thanks for reply, I might consider basic bikers instead of nobz. Also, this is supposed to be core for apocalypse. I already found good colour scheme, Bad moonz, so to be fluffy, list should include lots of gadgets (flash gitz) and other killy stuff.

IMHO You should always run Boyz Nobs with P.K. + B.P. and shoota it's almost mandatory!
Consider taking Da Lucky Stikk instead of Waaagh Banner on your Warboss, for 5 points more you get to reroll To Hit, Wound and Armor Saves.
As they said a couple tracktor cannons aren't bad, but 6 is a bit overkill.
Never really had a need for Boarding Planks on standard 4x6 tables you should be able to assault on Turn 2 if you didn't get shot to death. Rokkit + Ram is standard.

Hey there, ok I made some changes to the list, trying still to keep it fast..

Combined Arms Detachment
Kaptin badrukk 110
Boyz (10, slugga+choppa, big shoota, nob/ claw, bosspole) 145 + trukk 30
Boyz (10, slugga+choppa, big shoota, nob/ claw, bosspole) 145 + trukk 30
Dakkajet (flyboss) 125
Dakkajet (flyboss) 125
Mek gunz (2x tractor cannon) 60
Mek gunz (2x tractor cannon) 60

Combined Arms Detachment
Warboss (bike, killchoppa relic) 105
Boyz (10, slugga+choppa, big shoota, nob/ claw, bosspole) 145 + trukk 30
Boyz (10, slugga+choppa, big shoota, nob/ claw, bosspole) 145 + trukk 30
Warbikez (10, nob/claw, bosspole) 220
Warbikez (10, nob/claw, bosspole) 220
Warbuggiez (5) 125

Total 1850