Warhammer 40,000 new edition announced & new site ; UPDATE 28/04 Psychic Phase

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**Draccan**

People seem to miss an important fact:
The promised free core rules, but full rules have to be purchased. Core rules probably doesn't get you far.
And more important, the codexes are going away and replaced with cheap ones, but no where does it state that army lists and rules will now be online for free.

So unless that happens and they haven't stated that yet, the usual codex regurgitation and bloat will continue on and on...

**Draccan**

Oh and changing 40k scale is a dealbreaker in my book...
Sure you can play with your old miniatures, but what happens when you want new unit types and new models?

Changing the scale to invalidate 20+ years of space marine models is just............... [no words]

**Draccan**

kronk wrote:
Draccan wrote:
Oh and changing 40k scale is a dealbreaker in my book...
Sure you can play with your old miniatures, but what happens when you want new unit types and new models?

Changing the scale to invalidate 20+ years of space marine models is just............... [no words]

I have two words. Bull gak.

They have been steadily increasing for 20+ years. Where have you been?

Left to right:

1. Assault on Black Reach starter set (5th edition)
2. Space Marines vs Tyranid box set (3rd edition?)
3. Old metal marine (3rd edition)
4. Death Watch Marine (7th edition)
5. Space Marines vs Tyranid box set (3rd edition?)
6. Dark Vengeance Chaos Marine (7th edition)

Which one is the right and proper scale that is being "invalidated"? 3rd edition was invalidated with the 4th edition Tactical Squad box. That was "invalidated" with Death Watch. And so on.

Further:

Which Rhino is the proper scale?

There is much to complain about, I suppose. But this complaint is the silliest. The marines have not been steady state for 20 years, they have been INCREASING STEADILY for 20 years.

I agree that scale has been creeping up for years. That doesn't make it okay to give it a considerable notch up. You can't go to new "true scale" and expect vehicles not to change once again. With the amount of models produced and in people's possession by now it is a huge deal. Now if you just have static armies that is not a problem, but when new vehicles and units are needed or even whole new ones produced only in the true scale it undermines people's collections.

There is a huge difference between adding new scale upgrades to skirmish armies where people had 20-40 marines and a vehicle or two or three. Now many people have much larger arrays of vehicles and models and to change the scale on them is just ................................. [insert your favorite expletive here]

**Draccan**

kronk wrote:
Maréchal des Logis Walter wrote:
GG games workshop, thanks to three edition in as many years,

3 in six years, but don't let facts ruin a good rant.

I think a new edition is welcome as I bailed on 7th. before it was even out. I think it is really needed. As long as the relaunch is the right one. As long as they get rid of the same old diseases of churning out supplement after supplement with rules that people need.
That said; GW shouldn't come with three editions in three years. We aren't just talking about replacing a book or two. Many people will have had a dozen book for each edition. I can understand the frustration even though I didn't jump on the 7th. train...

BTW. GW only promised free core rules, not army lists. Everyone assumes there will be AoS free army lists but they didn't say that. They said CHEAP not free army lists. So the paper mill will probably continue to churn and churn....

**Draccan**

SeanDrake wrote:
The small amount of truscale fanatics are a god send to GW as there going to let them invalidate there best ever selling range while saying it is what people wanted.

Let's face it: Who here hasn't dreamt of getting a new scale for your marines, rhinos, terminators, motorbikes, assault bikes, predators, land raiders and hell even drop pods?

Not to mention the joy of seeing this creep into 30k. I am sure all the people buying those cheap, discounted 30k armies will rejoice in a new scale....