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With the Kickstarter live I think we can make this the main thread for the game - Kid Kyoto
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rogueheroes/rifts-board-game
Project cancelled May 13 - Kid Kyoto

I am painting up the the test prints of some of the new Rogue Heroes Rifts Miniatures for use in the demo games for the forthcoming Kickstarter so far I have painted 5 of the Coalition Troopers and the Glitterboy, I have 4 more characters to paint which will be completed this weekend to be posted to Rogue Heroes for the Demos. Lovely models, what I have been waiting for for along time.


















I will post the other models once they have been shared on their Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/RogueHeroesPublishing/?ref=ts&fref=ts

I always thought Rifts would be well suited to a miniature game. I see that there's a Triax Red Cyborg planned. I may need to back this when it hits Kickstarter just for him.

If ever there was a use for that Vader "Noooo" .gif, it'd be now.

For years I've wanted to see Rifts done properly on a tabletop.

I LOVED Rifts. It left a serious mark on me as an impressionable teen way back when it was first released. Magic, robots, dystopian future, drugs, dinosaurs, aliens, demons, mechs.... just about everything I enjoyed all rolled into one.

Only hurdle it'll have to get over is Palladium itself, and after Robotech, that's going to be an interesting obstacle to get over.

Let me know when the Spluglorths and the blind warrior women show up . Also juicers, dog boys and any superheroes through the rifts.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
If ever there was a use for that Vader "Noooo" .gif, it'd be now.

For years I've wanted to see Rifts done properly on a tabletop.

I LOVED Rifts. It left a serious mark on me as an impressionable teen way back when it was first released. Magic, robots, dystopian future, drugs, dinosaurs, aliens, demons, mechs.... just about everything I enjoyed all rolled into one.

Only hurdle it'll have to get over is Palladium itself, and after Robotech, that's going to be an interesting obstacle to get over.

Check out the Savage Worlds Rifts! I backed the kickstarter but the books are at retail now. More elegant rule sets and reasonably balanced (characters like rogue scientists effectively come with more skill points/edges and rolls on special tables compared to dragons). Like, the dragon is still probably better, but you arent a joke if you pick a wilderness scout or something. Been running a monthly game since October or so and it's been a blast.

I saw some hints of this (a render of Harv, the iconic the red borg) so glad that it's progressing.

I've always been amused that the point of the Glitterboy armor isnt to protect you from enemies... but to protect you from being that close to the Boomgun when it goes off!

Anyone who backs this should know that the creator was a longtime Palladium employee whose prior crowdfunded project is the still unfinished 4 years later Robotech Tactics. Carmen, the Rifts boargdgame creator, interacted with backers of his previous project for approximately two hours culminating in a threat by him to let his previous project "burn" in response to criticism from disgruntled backers. This highly biased update from Palladium details the aftermath of that short encounter. Caveat Emptor.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/1811029

Links to the actual interaction should be in the comments and the facts differ significantly from Palladium's attempt at shifting the blame away from themselves.

Awesome! Been playing a campaign of Savage Worlds Rifts since last spring. I love being a Glitterboy, Boomguns are hilarious. Last game I one-shotted an incoming dropship right through it's cockpit with some lucky rolls, and with a max range of something like 100 real-world feet when converted from inches, my companions called in artillery strikes from me from a far-off hilltop.

Neat Mech and nice enough figures.

The models are nice enough, but so were models that Palladium showed for RRT.

That said, I hope that this KS pulls in a lot of money so that RRT can be finished, just as PB managed to finish NG 1&2 after RRT funded...

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The models are nice enough, but so were models that Palladium showed for RRT.

That said, I hope that this KS pulls in a lot of money so that RRT can be finished, just as PB managed to finish NG 1&2 after RRT funded...

but then that would mean the backers of the Rift's boardgame will be waiting 4 or more years for their game, that is if it is even made at all (other then a digital copy of the rules), but in reality Kevin will probably not use the RBG money for RRT but then again its debatable if he will even use it for RBG, and yes I know Carmen and his company is doing the RBG but we all know who is pulling his strings and Carmen will be thrown under the bus when the game is not delivered.

Is Carmen even...mentally stable enough to run the Rifts BG KS? 2 hours spent trying to promote his KS on the RRT KS page made him try to commit suicide.

Sining wrote:
Is Carmen even...mentally stable enough to run the Rifts BG KS? 2 hours spent trying to promote his KS on the RRT KS page made him try to commit suicide.

I'm sure that will come up on his project, with backers asking why they should invest in a project with no guarantee of it finishing with the project creator having tried to commit suicide a few months earlier?

and that will be Kevin's cue to enter the picture to guarantee to the project backer he will insure the project will be completed and delivered

Would Kevin even try to pick up extra responsibility -_-

Sining wrote:
Would Kevin even try to pick up extra responsibility -_-

your kidding right? this is Kevin, hes most likely the puppet master behind Carmen.

That first miniature looks like a Power Rangers villain. Not in a good way.

The Glitter boy actually looks nice.

But no.

Just no.

As the Robotech KS enters its 4th year I wonder if maybe Kyoto Secunda and her Clone Sister will someday get the models I paid for.

If you like them, WAIT FOR RETAIL. If Palladium shows they can actually produce well... anything. Then go for it.

But don't give them a dime up front.

Absolutely agreed. Once it's out and in stores? Knock yourself out, the minis look nice enough and the game may be fun.

But I would STRONGLY advice against backing a KS, given previous experiences. No matter how much they tout that Rogue Heroes is a separate company... from here it really, really looks like they are a "separate company" only in the same way Asmodee, FFG and edge Entertainment are separate companies, now.

So yeah, I say wait for it [/Burr]

I should mention the creator of the KS has publicly said that IF a KS creator does not produce anything, there is nothing backers can do. Granted, he was talking about the RRT creators, but this isn't a great sentiment to have in a KS creator.

Underwhelmed.

winterdyne wrote:
Underwhelmed.

Don't worry, they won't meet those expectations either .

Wow, yeah... that guy needs to focus on getting some mental health treatment, not running a kickstarter and trying to fulfill it. Hopefully the minis see the light of day at retail. I'd originally planned on using the Dreamforge stormtroopers as deadboys but would prefer official ones.

I loved RIFTS even with the ridiculous Palladium system. It was really a part of the fun to try to make your Vagabond somehow matter in a world with Titan Juicers. The models look pretty good, fair representation from the artwork. But there are a TON of different races and factions so this is an ambitious project that may not have a good enough following yet. Hope for the best though.

Sining wrote:
I should mention the creator of the KS has publicly said that IF a KS creator does not produce anything, there is nothing backers can do. Granted, he was talking about the RRT creators, but this isn't a great sentiment to have in a KS creator.

I really hope someone bothered with a screen shot of that exchange.

I did

As I posted in another forum - I'd be happy to see this somehow come to fruition and actually get produced (and then, ya know, actually shipped to customers). If that somehow happens I'd love to pick up a box or two and get some of the figures.

But the Palladium/Kevin/Carmen stuff will keep me miles from a Kickstarter. Shame, as I'd kill for some SAMAS etc.

Dogpiling on the Caveat Emptor. Kickstarter guarantees nothing and gives really no recourse if things go south - the backer calls all shots and if they prove to be as scurrilous as PB has been, you are at their mercy. I wouldn't suggest backing an unknown company - especially one so closely tied and promoted by PB.

Although, I will say IF this makes it to retail, it certainly looks worth looking at. The primary operating word being "IF".

Sining wrote:
I did

Spoiler:

problem is that has already been proven false on a few occasions, like the incident in Washington where their AG take down a card company who failed to deliver on their KS promises (stuff got shipped out but the creator still got fined), and the other incident on the board game the FTC took down and fined, things can be done but you need a lawyer to do them.

The technical term for this is Gakshow...

I would be interested, but the baggage train has left the station for Palladium.

what it comes down too there is too much unknown and garbage associated with the creator of this game and with PB and Kevin which is enough to do harm to the project itself with no help from detractors and such, Carmen's best hope is if the project does not fund. he will lose a lot but if it funds low he could lose a lot more.

Looks like it's probably being delayed another week. From the Rogue Heroes FB page.

Rogue Heroes Studio wrote:There will be 100 early birds and the normal pledge level, we are keeping the pledge levels simple. I will be shipping out from Windsor ON for us Canadians. And we will announce the launch date, its in about a week from now. Thanks Carmen.
2 May at 02:40

Given my location, that time and date equates to about midday on Monday, Ontario time. If it was going to be this weekend, I'd have expected them to say as such. And there still hasn't been an announcement of a launch date. Heck, there hasn't been a new Post of any kind in over a week (though as per the above, he is communicating a little in the commentaries).

There's also another tidbit of information that might be relevant. "I will be shipping out from Windsor ON for us Canadians.". That doesn't parse as all shipments will be sent from Ontario. Which would be what a truly independent company would do. I wonder where else they could ship from in the continental United States....

Yeah, still not buying that this isn't some kind of shell company for Palladium. I'd want to see the shipping docket from the manufacturer listing a Canadian address before I accepted otherwise, and Carmen not just shuffling the likely much smaller Canadian contingent through the Michigan/Ontario border.