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The only good feelings people appear to have are based on the hope that things will be better in the codex

Allow me to be the bearer of the Icon of Despair:

Our Mark does nothing, after seven editions of the game where the mark of a chaos god was a big deal, with statistic impacts that help unify our army, we now just get "Mark of Nurgle means they're dedicated to Nurgle

Plague Marines don't have access to Bolt Pistols for the first time since 2nd edition, despite our background explicitly stating that's our modus operandi

Lords of Corruption and the other DI characters have no options at all

Sure, things might get better with the new codex, but the truth is none of us have any idea, we can only work on the basis of what we have in front of us, and GW changing things so fundamentally in what is supposed to be a get-you-by interim list points to dark times ahead, especially when they backpedal on stuff we got only a few months ago in Traitor legions

Might the codex be better? Sure, but we shouldn't assume it will be.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Plague Marines don't have access to Bolt Pistols for the first time since 2nd edition, despite our background explicitly stating that's our modus operandi

Actually 3.5 didn't have CSM with Bolt Pistols.. You had a CCW and EITHER a bolt pistol or Boltgun.. But DeathGuard could use their Bolter as a CCW/PM due to True Grit due to just being so incredibly skilled with it.

So what you're saying is:

They
Had
Access
To
Bolt
Pistols

...which is what I said.

People keep saying they're unfluffy, they're not. The background states that the Death Guard "Placed little emphasis" on specialist troops using jump packs or bikes, not that they all evaporated, they're arguably more common than things like Relic Sicarians (which we will have access to) and Xiphon Interceptors (ditto)

By contrast, there's precisely zero background that states the Death Guard don't have infantry heavy weapons, and yet people lie down and accept that.

Then there's this snippet: "the Death Guard did not have dedicated Assault and Tactical squads as such; all his Space Marines were expected by Mortarion to be equally adept with bolter, pistol and close combat weapon, to fight with whatever weapon circumstance dictated."

*Bolt Pistol*

 Rippy wrote:

When I say unfluffy, I just mean that they would be much more uncommon than other units; they are not really famous for their raptor cults and bikers really don't make sense for Death Guard. Trikes would be better than 2 wheeler bikes.

I'm sorry, let me wrap my head around this:

You are against Bikes and Jump Pack troops because they are "Unfluffy" - meaning they're not very common (even though, as Ive just pointed out, there are much rarer things we CAN take). But you're Pro Death Guard getting units like Trikes, which they have never, ever had*, and have only existed for a single army, which got Squatted

Is that an accurate representation of what you've just said? because that's what I'm getting from what you wrote



*(Unless you count Attack Bikes, which would mean you'd be advocating Attack Bikes but not regular Bikes)

I was planning a Dark Apostle on Palanquin to lead my poxwalker/cultist hordes, but apparently nobody can take those anymore

nuts, that was gonna be such a cool idea.

Oh well, he can go back to being a sorceror then

It'd be interesting to see a Typhus/Necrosius tagteam army where there are massive unstoppable poxwalker hordes buffed by both

 Swara wrote:

Does anyone have t he rules for the greater Bloat drone? I have 5 and I 'm getting antsy to see how they will fair.

They're pretty damn good
Fast Attack

BS3+ T7 W12

5++ from Daemon Engine
Regenerates a wound each turn

3 weapons:
Bile Maw - Pistol D3, S8 AP -2 D3 Damage reroll 1s to wound
Blightreaper Cannon - Heavy 4 S7 AP -1 2 damage, AP increased to -3 on a to-hit roll of 6
Plague Probe CCW

11 Power
200pts after weapons (Daamn!)

Cant be taken in swarms anymore so you'll have to get a big detachment to fit your 5 (I have 3 + 3 Bloat Drones, I'm gonna need a detachment just for Drones!)

I think the question is really "When we get a DG Terminator unit, will it have options compatible with the models we currently have?"

The last thing we want is a cool new unique DG Terminator unit that replaces vanilla terminator options and means we have to rip our models apart