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2017/06/09 00:57:31
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Raging Ravener
Flint, MI
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So, I got a look at the indexes today.
Chaos Space Marine Demon Prince: MUST take a mark, if Slaanesh, Tzeetch or Nurgle, can take a power from the basic list of three, NOT the god specific ones. So, no undivided Princes now, and marked princes can't have the marked power.
Chaos DEMONS Demon Prince: Can not take basic powers, MUST take a marked power.
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2017/06/09 01:08:06
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Not sure what you were expecting? There are no undivided princes in 7th either, other than belakor of course. No access to god specific tables is pretty stupid indeed, but we knew that already.
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2017/06/09 01:29:04
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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There hasn't been an undivided prince since
*puts on nerd glasses*
*mumble mumble mumble*
6th edition. Actually if you wanna get technically, there hasn't been one since 3.5 edition. In 4th you could have an unmarked prince but that was about it.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
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2017/06/09 01:48:06
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Isn't Bel'akor the only undivided daemon prince in 40k? After him, the Gods decided that it wasn't worh it. No?
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 Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2017/06/09 01:56:12
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Raging Ravener
Flint, MI
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Well, I chalked up 6th as an alcohol induced stupor that didn't happen.
I chalked up 7th as a nightmare that reality is trying to forget.
All told, I have a Slaaensh army taking the dust off, and I have a demon Prince with long legs, who lost "fast", which is okay, but now lost his Slaanesh powers as well.
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2017/06/09 01:56:22
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I haven't looked through the Chaos stuff yet, does Bel'kar have a datasheet/rules? If so, how is he?
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2017/06/09 02:18:36
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Be'lakor has rules. Not sure how he is though. Having undivided Daemon Princes would have been a nice touch. They could represent Daemon Princes of lesser deities, such as Malice. If everyone has to receive sponsorship by one of the big 4 then we may see some really horrible fluff for Lorgar, Perturabo, and other Undivided princes.
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2017/06/09 02:20:48
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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I'm in love with be'lakor. He packs a good number of good attacks(6) at a good profile(S7 ap-5 D3), is highly mobile at 14" move, cast/denies two spells (knows the csm spells), and best of all has 8 wounds so he's not super weak and sneaks in under 10 so can't be targeted. All that comes at 110 points cheaper than he was last edition (240 now!!). So far I've played 5 games of daemons and he's been my warlord 4 of them(used kairos for first game, big mistake to make a greater daemon the warlord). He has been absolutely amazing for me so far and I highly recommend trying him out.
Not to mention free move spell csm have used on a bloodthirster for a 24" first turn move and most likely charge is a huge opener.
Oh! And he has a 4++(invul) and re rolls failed saves.
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2017/06/09 02:23:36
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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MurderKing wrote:They could represent Daemon Princes of lesser deities, such as Malice.
Who is Malice? 
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koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
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2017/06/09 02:56:20
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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2017/06/09 03:41:23
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Been Around the Block
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Ecdain wrote:
Not to mention free move spell csm have used on a bloodthirster for a 24" first turn move and most likely charge is a huge opener.
Can only cast warp speed on CSM units, doesn't work on bloodthirsters sadly :(
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2017/06/09 03:45:03
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Furious Fire Dragon
A forest
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 Galas wrote:Isn't Bel'akor the only undivided daemon prince in 40k? After him, the Gods decided that it wasn't worh it. No?
It wasnt worth it because they became very powerful, so they never did it again
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2017/06/09 04:26:43
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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MurderKing wrote:Be'lakor has rules. Not sure how he is though. Having undivided Daemon Princes would have been a nice touch. They could represent Daemon Princes of lesser deities, such as Malice. If everyone has to receive sponsorship by one of the big 4 then we may see some really horrible fluff for Lorgar, Perturabo, and other Undivided princes.
I always like to think Legion of the Dammed are Malal's work
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2017/06/09 06:02:13
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Galas wrote:Isn't Bel'akor the only undivided daemon prince in 40k? After him, the Gods decided that it wasn't worh it. No?
Well there used to be so that's retconning.
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2017/06/09 18:04:22
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Galas wrote:Isn't Bel'akor the only undivided daemon prince in 40k? After him, the Gods decided that it wasn't worh it. No?
Logar and perturabo disagree.
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2017/06/09 18:28:40
Subject: Nice subtle nerf to the demon prince eh? I hope it's an over sight.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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 Jaxler wrote: Galas wrote:Isn't Bel'akor the only undivided daemon prince in 40k? After him, the Gods decided that it wasn't worh it. No?
Logar and perturabo disagree.
Can we consider Daemon Primarchs ... Daemon Princes? They are something more. Plus, they are all Gary Stu, so is obvious that the normal rules for the universe don't apply to them 
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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