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So there's a general modifier rule that if an additive modifier and a multiplicative modifier apply to the same characteristic, you apply the multiplicative modifier before the additive modifier.


My question is: Is model strength the same Characteristic as melee attack strength?

If I have a +1 to "unit strength" and then a melee weapon applies a x2 weapon strength modifier to determine "weapon strength", are these applying to the same characteristic?

E.g. a servitor with base 3 strength affected by invocation of machine might (+1 unit strength) and wielding a servo arm (x2). Does the servo arm attack with 7 strength or 8 strength?


I would guess 7 strength. But the fact that melee weapons can have strengths entirely independent of their models makes me question if that's correct.

steerpike92 wrote:
So there's a general modifier rule that if an additive modifier and a multiplicative modifier apply to the same characteristic, you apply the multiplicative modifier before the additive modifier.


My question is: Is model strength the same Characteristic as melee attack strength?

If I have a +1 to "unit strength" and then a melee weapon applies a x2 weapon strength modifier to determine "weapon strength", are these applying to the same characteristic?

E.g. a servitor with base 3 strength affected by invocation of machine might (+1 unit strength) and wielding a servo arm (x2). Does the servo arm attack with 7 strength or 8 strength?


I would guess 7 strength. But the fact that melee weapons can have strengths entirely independent of their models makes me question if that's correct.

I think this is a totally valid question. RAW I think a weapon's Strength characteristic being drawn from the model's own Strength characteristic does make them two separate things, and so would break the normal order of applying a multiplication modifier before an addition modifier.

However, I'm guessing that isn't the intent of the rules (and not how most people would naturally think to play it), so its probably worth trying to get GW to answer this via FAQ (I'll add it to the FAQ submission thread).

It will be the exact same as it was in 7th. Strength 7. The rules for such are the same in 8th.

Pg. 175 of the corebook tells you exactly how to handle all modifiers, it is a tangent on the right side of the page called modifying characteristics. Just reread it and you'll have your answer.