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Battalion

Skarbrand

Dark Apostle, power maul, combi-bolter

Dark Apostel, power maul, combi-bolter

8 Berzerkers
8 Chainswords
5 Chainaxes
2 Bolt Pistols
1 Power axe
Icon of Wrath

Rhino, combi-bolter, combi-bolter

8 Berzerkers
8 Chainswords
5 Chainaxes
2 Bolt Pistols
1 Power axe
Icon of Wrath

Rhino, combi-bolter, combi-bolter

8 Berzerkers
8 Chainswords
5 Chainaxes
2 Bolt Pistols
1 Power axe
Icon of Wrath

Rhino, combi-bolter, combi-bolter

8 Berzerkers
8 Chainswords
5 Chainaxes
2 Bolt Pistols
1 Power axe
Icon of Wrath

Rhino, combi-bolter, combi-bolter

Heldrake, Baleflamer

Heldrake, Baleflamer

5 Havocs, 4 autocannons, chainaxe

2000 points / 6 Command Points

I have 8 reasons why this list is crazy flavorful

1. The Berzerkers and Rhinos are 8 units that total up to 888 points.
2. Each Rhino can fire 8 shots.
3. The Havocs can fire 8 shots.
4. Skarbrand moves 8, has an 8" aura, and gets 8 attacks on the charge.
5. I don't see why Heldrakes aren't one of the most reliable units to get a turn 1 charge with 8 total attacks.
6. When Skarbrand is close, the Berzerkers will have 8 attacks a turn.
7. I have 8 deployment drops.
8. The Dark Apostles improve my Berzerkers to have a 88.8...% hit percentage. Infinite 8s for the Blood God!

Praises be to Khorne. I'd play that.

Why is Skarbrand in his own Detachment instead of just being the third HQ in your Battalion?

 Cadian16th wrote:
Why is Skarbrand in his own Detachment instead of just being the third HQ in your Battalion?

Can I do that? I thought Daemons were a separate faction so he can't be in the same detachment as the Heretic Astartes. Would you mind proving me wrong so I can comfortably get that extra command point?

Marshal_Gus wrote:

 Cadian16th wrote:
Why is Skarbrand in his own Detachment instead of just being the third HQ in your Battalion?

Can I do that? I thought Daemons were a separate faction so he can't be in the same detachment as the Heretic Astartes. Would you mind proving me wrong so I can comfortably get that extra command point?

They share the 'Chaos' and/or 'Khorne' Faction Keyword, so they can be in the same detachment.

It's that simple? Well then. I normally play Necrons so I haven't looked into how keywords work. Thanks!

Why are dark apostles in this list? Fluffwise, that doesn't make sense to me.

And why isn't Kharne the Betrayer in this list?

Nix the dark apostles. Find a way to add Kharne.

And throw in a chaos lord to represent a world eaters captain.

Further point:

If the idea is that the list is supposed to be a World Eaters legion list, why did you put a chaos daemon in it?

 Traditio wrote:
Why are dark apostles in this list? Fluffwise, that doesn't make sense to me.

And why isn't Kharne the Betrayer in this list?

Nix the dark apostles. Find a way to add Kharne.

And throw in a chaos lord to represent a world eaters captain.

Further point:

If the idea is that the list is supposed to be a World Eaters legion list, why did you put a chaos daemon in it?

Because the Apostles raise the Berzekers hit percentage to 88.8 and buffs their leadership. Fluffwise?... These Apostles have seen the light and are leaders in this Cult of 8.

I don't see anything 8-y or any reason really to go with Chaos Lords.

Kharne isn't nearly as 8-y as the Apostles or Skarbrand. He doesn't support other units as well either.

It's a Khorne list. What's wrong with daemons of Khorne? World Eaters are sometimes lead by Daemons into battle anyway so I don't see your fluff point, if that's what you're saying.

I guess this is my point:

You advertised the list as "World Eaters." When you say "This is a World Eaters list," my expectation is that the list is going to reflect the typical structure of a World Eaters legion army.

So my expectation is Kharne the Betrayer, a captain, a host of khorne berserkers, and maybe some support units like landraiders, rhinos, predators, etc.

But this indeed is not that. This seems to be a general Khorne list that centers around the number 8.

This would be like saying: "This is a thousand sons army," and then showing up without Ahriman, Magnus...or any sorcerers at all, for that matter, except for the aspiring sorcerers in the t-sons squads.

At any rate, there are at least a couple of reasons that I don't like this list:

1. It strikes me as very much meta-gamey and math-hammery, of which I'm not a fan in general.

2. This math-hammering leads you into questionable unit selections (world eaters chaplains...? I suppose that's not out of the question, but it would obviously be more suitable for other legions).

But OK, fine.

This is supposed to be a general khorne list.

Why no khorne daemons other than Skarbrand?

Again, this list strikes me as gamey...even power gamey. The sole reason you seem to be taking units is because of math-hammer considerations.

But fine, let's ignore all of that.

How would this list fare?

I have some concerns. First and foremost, this list suffers from a relatively low model count. That's only 46 models. In 8th edition, a low model count isn't necessarily a good idea.

Furthermore, what does the autocannon havoc squad add? In practice, you're going to have a lone havoc squad sitting all by themselves in your deployment zone the whole game. It would be pretty easy for an opponent to take out.

Also, who is going to be camping objectives?

There are no cultists in this list.


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Additional point:

Have you taken into account highly mobile armies like eldar, harlequins, dark eldar, etc?