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Ave dominus Machina!

Boy is list making in 8th edition a gigantic pain... figured I'll try and make myself some list that would be goal to achieve (only way I can force myself to do anything these days...) and to make myself comfortable with the new list building, so here it goes:

HQ:
Tech-Priest Dominus
Eradication Ray
Macrostubber

Tech-Priest Dominus
Eradication Ray
Macrostubber
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - These two guys serve as "mini-Onagers" and to fill my HQ choices. I wonder if I should replace them with Cawl as he is actually cheaper than 2 Tech Priests.
Troops:
Kataphron Destroyers(3)
Grav-Cannon
Cognis Flamer
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Only one troop choice as they are pretty terrible right now. Still, I want to make some conversions to them and they round up my points nicely.
Elites:
Electro-Priests (10)
Electrostatic gauntlet

Electro-Priests (10)
Electrostatic gauntlet
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - My "standard" bubble wrap from here on - these guys are both survivable and nasty. Wish they were Troops.
Heavy:
Onager Dunecrawler
Eradication Beamer

Onager Dunecrawler
Eradication Beamer
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - My standard duo of destruction. Don't know why everybody is pissing on Eradication Beamer from such heights - it got really good in my opinion.
Fast:
Ironstrider
Lascannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - My "Troops" in Outrider Detachment. Pretty straight-forward as now they pack a punch (both Lascannons and Autocannons) and have survivability of vehicle on top of 6+ Invulnerable.
What do you think?

Out of curiosity, why do you think the Destroyers are terrible? Is it just the low save and wound count? Could you not have used some Vanguard as your troop choice instead, or Rangers?

I'm starting a new Ad Mech army at the moment so any advice would help me out greatly in regards to what I should buy. I was thinking of some Kastelan Robots as I love them, plus a few start collecting boxes.

Kandela wrote:Ave dominus Machina!

Spoiler:

Boy is list making in 8th edition a gigantic pain... figured I'll try and make myself some list that would be goal to achieve (only way I can force myself to do anything these days...) and to make myself comfortable with the new list building, so here it goes:

HQ:
Tech-Priest Dominus
Eradication Ray
Macrostubber

Tech-Priest Dominus
Eradication Ray
Macrostubber
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - These two guys serve as "mini-Onagers" and to fill my HQ choices. I wonder if I should replace them with Cawl as he is actually cheaper than 2 Tech Priests.
Troops:
Kataphron Destroyers(3)
Grav-Cannon
Cognis Flamer
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Only one troop choice as they are pretty terrible right now. Still, I want to make some conversions to them and they round up my points nicely.
Elites:
Electro-Priests (10)
Electrostatic gauntlet

Electro-Priests (10)
Electrostatic gauntlet
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - My "standard" bubble wrap from here on - these guys are both survivable and nasty. Wish they were Troops.
Heavy:
Onager Dunecrawler
Eradication Beamer

Onager Dunecrawler
Eradication Beamer
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - My standard duo of destruction. Don't know why everybody is pissing on Eradication Beamer from such heights - it got really good in my opinion.
Fast:
Ironstrider
Lascannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon

Ironstrider
Autocannon
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - My "Troops" in Outrider Detachment. Pretty straight-forward as now they pack a punch (both Lascannons and Autocannons) and have survivability of vehicle on top of 6+ Invulnerable.
What do you think?

Not a fan of the autocannons. They seem underpowered, with not enough shots to thin hordes or enough power to knock out tanks, while the Lascannon seems like an ideal choice for cheap antitank.

Erads are not the ideal for the Crawlers. The consensus is Neutronager for anti-armor and Icarus for everything else.

Vanguard are much better suited for bubble wrap, while if you really need a counter-assault unit - Fulgurites are where it is at.

If you have no limitations on HQ selection, Cawl is a no brainer. Absolutely brutal force multiplier. Better than two TDPs, for sure.

theimperishable wrote:Out of curiosity, why do you think the Destroyers are terrible? Is it just the low save and wound count? Could you not have used some Vanguard as your troop choice instead, or Rangers?

I'm starting a new Ad Mech army at the moment so any advice would help me out greatly in regards to what I should buy. I was thinking of some Kastelan Robots as I love them, plus a few start collecting boxes.

Definitely head over here for a read. Lots of active AdMech players posting up results, ideas, lists, etc.

HQ:
Tech-Priest Dominus
Eradication Ray
Macrostubber
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Troops:
Kataphron Destroyers(3)
Grav-Cannon
Cognis Flamer
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Elites:
Electro-Priests (10)
Electrostatic gauntlet

Electro-Priests (10)
Electrostatic gauntlet
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Heavy:
Onager Dunecrawler (2)
Eradication Beamer

Onager Dunecrawler
Neutron Laser
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Fast:
Ironstrider
Lascannon

Ironstrider
Lascannon

Ironstrider
Lascannon

Ironstrider
Lascannon

Ironstrider
Lascannon
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Would this be better? I'm still taking Electro-Priests - they are more survivable, have better LD and their guns are killers in overwatch.
I also want to try out Eradication Beamer - it's a nice gun (at least on paper). Too bad we have to have an HQ tax now...

Run whatever you want, obviously. Just giving you all the suggestions based on the feedback from the Tactica thread.

AdMech struggles with hordes, so that many Ironstriders is not needed. Definitely needs Robots for high-volume firepower. Fulgurites really seem much better. The shooting likely won't factor in with the short range, plus they don't get the invuln bump.

And generally most AdMech players agree the Kataphrons are now officially subpar. Robots and Dunecrawlers outshine them in all ways, sadly.