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Noise Marines that are killed get to shoot their weapon one more time before they are removed from the table. This rule specifically states that they can do this even if they are within 1" of an enemy unit when they die. However, it does NOT specify that they can shoot at a unit which is within 1" of friendly models. So as far as I can tell, a Noise Marine which is killed in melee can only shoot their weapon and a different enemy unit, not the one that killed it?

Seems like maybe an oversight, but RAW that seems to be the case. Am I missing something?

Hmm the language is a bit vague.
It says make a shooting attack, even if the unit is within 1" of "The enemy". But it doesn't specify how targeting is supposed to work.

"The enemy " in my mind, implies the target of the shooting attack. If it had been " an enemy", that would be a restriction to shooting irrespective of target. So I think it should be removing the restriction on shooting an enemy within 1".

Its definitely something that should be FAQ'd, IMHO (I'll add it to my list).

Its not even really clear whether you're supposed to fire at the enemy unit that killed you (doesn't say that), or whether you can just pop a shot off anywhere (seems to be the latter).

But yeah, RAW, you have permission to fire the model even though the enemy is within 1", but you don't have permission to target that enemy unit (as it is within 1" of a friendly unit).

I guess they still get to fire their pistols. Not as cool as blasting them in the face with one last killer guitar solo, though.

How does this work when a noise marine dies to something other than enemy fire?

For example Fabius Bile, since it does not limit them to firing against the target that killed them, just firing. Does this mean that if a unit loses noise marines to Fabius Bile do they get to then fire?

 Leth wrote:
How does this work when a noise marine dies to something other than enemy fire?

For example Fabius Bile, since it does not limit them to firing against the target that killed them, just firing. Does this mean that if a unit loses noise marines to Fabius Bile do they get to then fire?

Yeah, it's confusingly worded. It does say "when the attacking unit is finished it's attack" which seems to presuppose they have to be under attack by an enemy, but it is not clear.

commisaro wrote:

 Leth wrote:
How does this work when a noise marine dies to something other than enemy fire?

For example Fabius Bile, since it does not limit them to firing against the target that killed them, just firing. Does this mean that if a unit loses noise marines to Fabius Bile do they get to then fire?

Yeah, it's confusingly worded. It does say "when the attacking unit is finished it's attack" which seems to presuppose they have to be under attack by an enemy, but it is not clear.

If I had to guess that is there to help us figure out the order of operations rather than as a limiter. I plan to play it that its at the end of whatever unit activation is occurring that resulted in the model dying. However it does raise the question for things like transports, something exploding nearby, etc.

From how we played it yesterday they could shoot out of the combat they died in but not "in it", which more or less keeps in line with other stuff's bespoke rules that allow them to shoot out of combat.

 Crablezworth wrote:
From how we played it yesterday they could shoot out of the combat they died in but not "in it", which more or less keeps in line with other stuff's bespoke rules that allow them to shoot out of combat.

What other units have a rule like that, for interest?

commisaro wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:
From how we played it yesterday they could shoot out of the combat they died in but not "in it", which more or less keeps in line with other stuff's bespoke rules that allow them to shoot out of combat.

What other units have a rule like that, for interest?

The baneblade has a rule that allows it to shoot while in combat, with the caveat that only the sponson weapon have specific permission to target the units it is engaged in combat with, everything else can only target other enemy units. A lot of the super heavies have an identical or similar rule.