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Made in us
Spawn of Chaos




Texas

With the release of 8th edition, I see myself needing to make a lot of 9" charges (not 8", as you to set up more than 9" away). I also noticed that re-rolls let you re-roll one or both dice. I've not seen the math worked out on that problem so I worked it out:

Probability of a 9" charge, no re-rolls = 10/36 (27.7%).

If you can only re-roll both dice the odds go to 10/36 + 26/36 * 10/36 = 47.8%
The first part is the success of getting a 9" charge on the first roll. The second part is the probability of failing your first rolling combined with making it on your second.

Now, if you can choose to re-roll one or both of your dice, you have to figure out where the sweet spot is on re-rolling one vs. both. Simply put you should keep any dice that are 4 or greater (unless you rolled two 4s, then keep one). This is because the chance of getting a 5 or 6, if one die is a 4 (1/3) beets the probability of a success if you re-roll dice (10/36).

The math gets tedious but for instance if you rolled a 4 (1/6) that was part of an unsuccessful roll (1/6 * 2/3), you have a 1/3 chance of making the re-roll succeeding (1/6 * 2/3 * 1/3). If you do this for all available options, then you end up with a 52.5% chance of success. It surprised me that this is only about 5% better than only having the option of re-rolling both dice.


Edit: Clearly, I'm better at math than English.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/06/20 00:15:21


 
   
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Infiltrating Broodlord





gratz on doing mathhammer
   
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Junior Officer with Laspistol




Manchester, UK

I was bored a week ago and just worked out every result. My totals matched yours, so yay!

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"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor 
   
Made in us
Spawn of Chaos




Texas

 Trickstick wrote:
I was bored a week ago and just worked out every result. My totals matched yours, so yay!

Wait! What if we're both wrong?
   
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Screaming Shining Spear





USA

I just copied and used your homework....so mine matched yours too!!

Hope I still get a good grade...even if I don't understand it lol


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 cinnabar wrote:
 Trickstick wrote:
I was bored a week ago and just worked out every result. My totals matched yours, so yay!

Wait! What if we're both wrong?


oh no!!! there goes my test scores!!! I hate when cheating fails

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 koooaei wrote:
We are rolling so many dice to have less time to realise that there is not much else to the game other than rolling so many dice.
 
   
Made in kr
Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks






your mind

But you need a ten inch charge.

   
Made in us
Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine






Nope. Nine. You need to make it to within an inch with the new rules, not base to base.

Help me, Rhonda. HA! 
   
Made in us
Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

 jeff white wrote:
But you need a ten inch charge.

No you don't. You only need to be within 1" of the enemy to make a successful charge. So a 9" charge is more than enough to get you within 1" of the enemy.

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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