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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 02:47:57
Subject: Request for Opinions: The Value of a 3+ Invul Save Vs a 4+ Invul Save
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So in the Space Wolves army list I'm working on for 8e I've been going back and forth on how to equip my Wolf Lord. The Wolf Lord comes with the Belt of Russ, which grants the model a 4+ Invul save, but for 30 pts you can give them a storm shield for a 3+ Invul save. I'm torn between getting the storm shield or having him use a plasma pistol in the offhand to be able to squeeze in that extra attack at range and in melee, but the extra safety of the 3+ seems pretty significant.
What are people's opinions on the value of having a 3+ vs. a 4+ invulnerable save? Is it a must-have if you can get it, or is it more effective to get gear that gives a different benefit and use the extra points elsewhere?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 03:09:14
Subject: Request for Opinions: The Value of a 3+ Invul Save Vs a 4+ Invul Save
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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30 points for a +1 in the Invulnerabl seems like a big hit. And Plasma Pistols in general are much better in 8th than in 7th.
I suppose it depends. Is you Wolf Lord gonna be a buffer or you wan't him to kill things?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 03:09:41
Subject: Request for Opinions: The Value of a 3+ Invul Save Vs a 4+ Invul Save
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Been Around the Block
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I think it really depends on what you have a lord kitted out for and what he will be hanging out with. If he is just going to stand in the middle of a blob and give out an aura you probably don't need the 3+. If he is going to be going toe to toe with a Bloodthirster you probably want that 3+, and probably some bodyguards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 05:51:20
Subject: Request for Opinions: The Value of a 3+ Invul Save Vs a 4+ Invul Save
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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jinxmurphy wrote:I'm torn between getting the storm shield or having him use a plasma pistol in the offhand to be able to squeeze in that extra attack at range and in melee
The pistol doesn't give you any extra attacks in CC..
the two CC weapons for +1 atk rule no longer exists..
But you do get to shoot with it even when locked in combat
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 07:06:16
Subject: Request for Opinions: The Value of a 3+ Invul Save Vs a 4+ Invul Save
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Well tbh if you want a monster hunter you go with a lonewolf, with no more instant death 4+ is no longer as risky as it used to be and hitting with a plasma pistol is nothing to sniff at.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 09:09:48
Subject: Request for Opinions: The Value of a 3+ Invul Save Vs a 4+ Invul Save
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Given that ID is no longer a thing, I am not sure it is worth the extra points for a Storm Shield. I guess it depends whether your WLord is going to be wrestling with many power fists, dreads and other multi-wound CCWs.
From the look of it, Space Wolves have a harder time protecting their characters in CC as they don't have anyone with the equivalent of a Company Veterans rule to catch wounds for your Characters in CC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 09:14:14
Subject: Request for Opinions: The Value of a 3+ Invul Save Vs a 4+ Invul Save
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Not as Good as a Minion
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For the Lord, you take 2 weapons and one of them is a ranged one
otherwise you will waste points because of his better BS and integrated save
The guy to run around with a Stormshield is the Wolf Guard Battle Leader
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 12:23:48
Subject: Request for Opinions: The Value of a 3+ Invul Save Vs a 4+ Invul Save
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Fresh-Faced New User
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KaoxVeed wrote:I think it really depends on what you have a lord kitted out for and what he will be hanging out with. If he is just going to stand in the middle of a blob and give out an aura you probably don't need the 3+. If he is going to be going toe to toe with a Bloodthirster you probably want that 3+, and probably some bodyguards.
My current plan is that he's going to be on a Thunderwolf and be riding around with a squad of TWC. So he won't be the main spearhead, but he'll be coming in from the side and smashing stuff with his crew.
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