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Unit A(1 man unit) charges unit B (1 man unit). Charge is successful both units are within 1 inch of each-other per the charge rules.
Now you pile in after you active your unit-

My opponent was trying to say Unit A could move 3" around Unit B in the pile in move. My mate and I are having a little difficulty agreeing on this rule.

I believe that it's impossible for unit A to get close to unit B so he can't move at all in his pile in - same in return goes for unit B when he activates.
He believe he can make the 3" move anyways.

Who is correct and why?

The only requirement is that a model's pile in move results in them being closer to the enemy. It doesn't say they have to to directly at the enemy unit. If you were at the 1 inch away and you pile around the side and end up 0.5" away then you made a legal pile in move.

I don't think I understand the question. Why do you think it is impossible for unit A to get close to unit B?

The pile in move is up to 3". You can't actually move through enemy models or terrain (unless you have Fly) and you need to remain in coherency, but other than that the only special restriction on it is that each model must end its pile in move closer to the closest enemy model. It is 100% possible to move around enemy models as part of this move (though note that unless you have Fly you're not going to be able to move a 1" base model all the way around another 1" base with a 3" move).

So as long as you are not actually in btb, you have a lot of freedom in making a pile in move. Being in btb prevents piling in though because you can't possibly be closer to the model than that.

I thought you wernt allowed to get closer than 1 inch of an enemy model at any time. Is there no requirement to make base to base if you can? This seems exceptionally idiotic. You could essentially keep getting .000001 inch closer to an enemy and just keep moving around it every pile in phase.

 Xenomancers wrote:
I thought you wernt allowed to get closer than 1 inch of an enemy model at any time. Is there no requirement to make base to base if you can? This seems exceptionally idiotic. You could essentially keep getting .000001 inch closer to an enemy and just keep moving around it every pile in phase.

That's not idiotic, its the point. If you surround an enemy unit they cannot fall back. (Excepting fly and some other special rules). Besides that melee is much more deadly now. Its far easier to get higher dmg higher str weapons with more dice in melee then it is in shooting. Coupled with moral combats shouldn't last that long.

 Xenomancers wrote:
I thought you wernt allowed to get closer than 1 inch of an enemy model at any time. Is there no requirement to make base to base if you can? This seems exceptionally idiotic. You could essentially keep getting .000001 inch closer to an enemy and just keep moving around it every pile in phase.

It's only in the Movement phase where you're not allowed to get within 1".

You can stop someone from doing this repeatedly by using your own models' pile in move to get into btb.

TY - for clearing this up guys. It makes sense now.

As a side note, this is a common tactic in Age of Sigmar to get more of your guys into the combat AND set yourself up for the next charge.

 Tamwulf wrote:
As a side note, this is a common tactic in Age of Sigmar to get more of your guys into the combat AND set yourself up for the next charge.

I am seeing that now - also - it's really changed my opinion on hormagaunts - they get a 6 inch pile in move.

I have another question regarding the pile in move.

Lets say, a squad of Poxwalkers charged a unit of Fire Warriors, both squads are locked in combat and on to the fight phase. I activate the Poxwalkers to fight and they get to make their piel in move.
As it happens, some of the Poxwalkers are nearer to the Kroot Squad standing next to the Fire Warriors than to the Fire Warriors i initially charged.
RAW, you have to pile in to the nearest model - so, those Poxwalkers would have to pile in to the Kroot, dragging them into CC - right?
The Poxwalkers would not be able to attack the Kroot since they did not charge them that turn, but the Kroot could hit back and/or are forced to fall back in their subsequent turn if they do not like the CC.
Conversely, if I as the Chaos palyer do not want to drag the Kroot into the CC, i were not allowed to pile in with the guys near to the Kroot, they would have to watch.

Please tell me if that is a correct interpretation. The other interpretation would be that you can only pile in to units you charged or you currently fight, which is however NOT how it is written.

That interpretation is correct. Pox can pile into Kroot if they end up closer. Pox can't attack Kroot cause they didn't charge Kroot but Kroot can attack back.