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Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





Ok so i know that it will never be perfectly balanced and that starter sets(and every codex release after that) will always favour the imperium but this time its just stupid. I just played a game against my son and he wiped me off the table my death guard didnt stand a chance. Mow that does not sound to bad until i explain that my son is 7 and has never played the game before. Yes he rolled well and i had bad luck with the dice but it was never even close
   
Made in es
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain




Vigo. Spain.

Extrange. In all of my games with the starter, the game goes like:

1st Turn- Primaris Marine shoot the crap out of Death Guard
2-3rd Turn: Lord of Contagion reachs meele. Primaris Marines just evaporate from the table.


Is much better that the Dark Vengeance one where the poor Hellbrute never did anything, he just died to the plasma spam of the Dark Angels.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

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ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





My lord never made it due to bad charge rolls. I needed a 3 to reach combat and rolled a 2. He died in a storm of plasma
   
Made in au
Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws






My games go exactly like yours Galas. Pox Walkers get evaporated, Plague Marines take a couple of deaths, then the Lord deep strikes and demolishes the Primaris. I tend to keep my drone on the flank I bring in the Lord, so it can act as a bodyguard for him until he charges. The Plague Marine with the plasma gun tends to do some work as well. Overall though, the drone taking hits + Lord demolishing = a Death Guard victory every game
   
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Dakka Veteran




Maybe it's not the balance, but the dice....
   
Made in si
Steady Stonecleaver







Other than the 9" teleport charge, how does the Lord possibly catch anything in melee?

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Made in ro
Longtime Dakkanaut



Moscow, Russia

This is the best troll thread I have ever seen
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





Im not trolling my 7 year old really did table me and has now been boasting about it for 5 hours
   
Made in es
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain




Vigo. Spain.

darthryan wrote:
Im not trolling my 7 year old really did table me and has now been boasting about it for 5 hours


Thats how you make it get addicted to this.

I did in the past with my younger niece with the Battle for Skull Pass of 7th fantasy. Playing 3 games he win 2, one with the goblins and other with the dwarfes

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





I told my son about my lord being able to teleport in behind him and he says not if all my men are in the way. So he deployed in 1 corner with his troops in the front and his characters behind them overlapping the auras overcharged long range plasma shots that can reroll to hit rolls and wound rolls is sick. Add in the banner guy letting them fire again even if they die and it is a very scary set up.
   
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard




Nottingham

So you're complaining that your son is smart and uses tactics?

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darthryan wrote:
Im not trolling my 7 year old really did table me and has now been boasting about it for 5 hours


and you decided to start a thread about it

exalted
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





Im a proud father that my boy has learnt tactics and planning at 7. A bit disappointed by the bad sportsmanship but he is 7 what did i expect
   
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Nottingham

darthryan wrote:
Im a proud father that my boy has learnt tactics and planning at 7. A bit disappointed by the bad sportsmanship but he is 7 what did i expect
And you made a thread about it?

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Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

I can't believe you're butthurt over your son winning the game.

Let the kid have something man.

Also, other people have just plain evaporated the spessmarnies with their plegmarnies, so...

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Made in ca
Courageous Space Marine Captain





darthryan wrote:
Im a proud father that my boy has learnt tactics and planning at 7. A bit disappointed by the bad sportsmanship but he is 7 what did i expect


except thats not the case, your son beats you and it's all the "imbalance in the starter set".

Ultimately the power of an Inquisitor extends as far as he can make it extend 
   
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

Yeah, you basically stomped off to rant about your friends about how OMG LIFE'S NOT FAIR! and your child beat you in a board game.

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Made in au
Ancient Chaos Terminator





'Straya... Mate.

When you lose to a 7 year old, it's wise to not come and admit it and then try to blame the armies

 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




Sounds like your son is just smarter than you.
   
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord





Oregon, USA

The starter kit, like all starter kits, is slanted in the Space Marines favor.

This one is a deal closer than some, though, and the boys in putrid green can still pull out wins.

If he was smart enough to castle to deny you your teleport charge behind him, and you lost, you should be proud, and then try the game again with some LOS blocking terrain, or offer to trade sides for the next game.

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The Last Chancer Who Survived





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 koooaei wrote:
darthryan wrote:
Im not trolling my 7 year old really did table me and has now been boasting about it for 5 hours


and you decided to start a thread about it

exalted
Sigged xD

 
   
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Pittsburgh, PA

This reads like 4chan copypasta. I haven't enjoyed a Dakka thread like this in a good while. Thanks bro.
   
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Yellin' Yoof



Hive Helsreach

Most dads I know would be ecstatic if their children got into 40k with them. Even more so if their kids then used some great tactics to beat dad in a game. Let him enjoy his victory, and propose another game. You're lucky to have a son that likes to play games with you.

My kids are into 40k as well and really enjoying 8th edition. I'm proud as can be of them when they win.

   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





I have at no point said im not proud and happy that he is playing i am very happy. I was just pointing out how badly balanced this set is if a 7 year old that has never played before can beat an adult that has been playing for 30+ years.

TO BE CLEAR I AM VERY PROUD OF MY SON
   
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The Last Chancer Who Survived





A vacuum where wargaming is impossible :C

darthryan wrote:
I have at no point said im not proud and happy that he is playing i am very happy. I was just pointing out how badly balanced this set is if a 7 year old that has never played before can beat an adult that has been playing for 30+ years.

TO BE CLEAR I AM VERY PROUD OF MY SON
Maybe he's a genius.

Given the situation and the admittance of bad rolls, this anecdote is not strong enough evidence that the box game is imbalanced, especially given the counter-anecdotes of a reversal of roles.

 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





He is pretty smart he takes after his dad
   
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The Last Chancer Who Survived





A vacuum where wargaming is impossible :C

darthryan wrote:
He is pretty smart he takes after his dad

If there was an emote for irony....

I'll just settle with this:

 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




darthryan wrote:
My lord never made it due to bad charge rolls. I needed a 3 to reach combat and rolled a 2. He died in a storm of plasma


Command Point?
   
 
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