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The command re-roll stratagem states "You can re-roll any single dice." Does this technically allow you to reroll dice when rolling off via "The Most Important Rule"? Furthermore, what's to stop me disagreeing with my opponent about what toughness value my models are, causing a roll off and the rerolling to try and win?

You can only use Stratagems on your own die

Most Important Rule regards that roll as no one's die

 Talamare wrote:
You can only use Stratagems on your own die

Most Important Rule regards that roll as no one's die

Can you please show me where it says that?

What stops you is probably your opponent deciding he/she'd rather play someone else.

I mean if I was at a table and my opponent insisted all his models were Toughness 20 and refused to budge. And then suggested that we just use "The Most Important Rule." I would be packing up and finding another opponent.

 lordwellingstone wrote:
What stops you is probably your opponent deciding he/she'd rather play someone else.

I mean if I was at a table and my opponent insisted all his models were Toughness 20 and refused to budge. And then suggested that we just use "The Most Important Rule." I would be packing up and finding another opponent.

Then he wins by default. You can't paint your opponent as the bad guy for following the rules.

The point for many people isn't to WAAC. The point is to have fun. I'll have no fun with an opponent that lordwellingstone described.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 lordwellingstone wrote:
What stops you is probably your opponent deciding he/she'd rather play someone else.

I mean if I was at a table and my opponent insisted all his models were Toughness 20 and refused to budge. And then suggested that we just use "The Most Important Rule." I would be packing up and finding another opponent.

Then he wins by default. You can't paint your opponent as the bad guy for following the rules.

Sure then my opponent is free to claim victory in a game of toy soldiers, and of course claim the all the cash and prizes that come along with it. I really hope that makes their day.

I guess one could try to do this at a tournament. But no sane TO would allow it. An individual behaving this way would quickly run out of people to play with. 40k sure gets old when you're rolling dice against yourself.

Strict RAW, maybe..

Definitely a dick move though.

 lordwellingstone wrote:
What stops you is probably your opponent deciding he/she'd rather play someone else.

I mean if I was at a table and my opponent insisted all his models were Toughness 20 and refused to budge. And then suggested that we just use "The Most Important Rule." I would be packing up and finding another opponent.

Ow... I hurt my finger hitting the Exalt button!


This is the best example of a troll thread I've seen in a looong time. Welcome to Ingoresville, there are plenty of like-minded citizens!

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:

 lordwellingstone wrote:
What stops you is probably your opponent deciding he/she'd rather play someone else.

I mean if I was at a table and my opponent insisted all his models were Toughness 20 and refused to budge. And then suggested that we just use "The Most Important Rule." I would be packing up and finding another opponent.

Ow... I hurt my finger hitting the Exalt button!


This is the best example of a troll thread I've seen in a looong time. Welcome to Ingoresville, there are plenty of like-minded citizens!

Following the rules is trolling now?

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Talamare wrote:
You can only use Stratagems on your own die

Most Important Rule regards that roll as no one's die

Can you please show me where it says that?

FAQ states you can only reroll your own die

 Talamare wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Talamare wrote:
You can only use Stratagems on your own die

Most Important Rule regards that roll as no one's die

Can you please show me where it says that?

FAQ states you can only reroll your own die

And who exactly is rolling your dice in a roll off? A magical space mushroom? I'm asking where it says the roll is "no-ones dice".

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Furthermore, what's to stop me disagreeing with my opponent about what toughness value my models are, causing a roll off and the rerolling to try and win?

Whats to stop anyone from being a troll? Mostly the community you play with. You can argue the Toughness all you want, but its clearly on the paper. In friendly games, you would simply lose a match. In a tournament play you would have the TO come over and tell you to stop being a troll at best, or penalize you at worst.

I sense OP is either a troll or a TFG, and his trollish responses aren't helping him. Mods should close this troll thread before the troll gets any trollier.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Talamare wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Talamare wrote:
You can only use Stratagems on your own die

Most Important Rule regards that roll as no one's die

Can you please show me where it says that?

FAQ states you can only reroll your own die

And who exactly is rolling your dice in a roll off? A magical space mushroom? I'm asking where it says the roll is "no-ones dice".

why are you the one rolling the die and not your opponent? He is also is in a disagreement. He has an equal claim to make the die roll for the most important rule. So how do you determine which player makes the roll?

Also if you allow people to disagree with objectively clear facts then the game instantly revolves in to a stalemate with no one winning

 CrownAxe wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Talamare wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Talamare wrote:
You can only use Stratagems on your own die

Most Important Rule regards that roll as no one's die

Can you please show me where it says that?

FAQ states you can only reroll your own die

And who exactly is rolling your dice in a roll off? A magical space mushroom? I'm asking where it says the roll is "no-ones dice".

why are you the one rolling the die and not your opponent? He is also is in a disagreement. He has an equal claim to make the die roll for the most important rule. So how do you determine which player makes the roll?

Clearly you roll for it. And each of you can reroll your die in that roll off using a command point.

How about we agree to use the most important rule to decide if we can command point the most important rule? :3

 BaconCatBug wrote:
How about we agree to use the most important rule to decide if we can command point the most important rule? :3

No i';m going to use the most important rule so that you can't disagree with what i say the rules are

Please don't spam the board with threads like this.