Switch Theme:

Fortress of Redemption Missile Silo range?  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in gb
Norn Queen






So, the Fortress of Redemption from Index - Imperium 1 has a weapon that has a profile stating 'Range: 18-96"'

Now, it appears obvious to me that this is meant to represent a minimum and maximum range the same way that the two values for movement on some vehicles do, as explained on page 3 in the movement rules. However, looking though the shooting rules there is no mention of this or any mention of a profile having a range of values as it's range. The rules for shooting (Page 5) state "In order to target an enemy unit, a model from that unit must be within the Range of the weapon being used (as listed on its profle) and be visible to the shooting model."

Therefore, if a model is 10" away from a Fortress of Redemption, it is within range of it since it is within 18" and within 96". I assume this will require errata.

Add me on Discord: BaconCatBug#0294
+++++There are currently ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN (115) documents required to play Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
+++++List of "broken" RaW in Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective. Even GW agrees with me, send an email to 40kfaq@gwplc.com for a confirmation reply "4. Apply The Rules As Written. If you still don’t have a satisfactory answer, use the rule just as it is written if you possibly can, even if you are not completely happy with the effect the rule has."
Mathhammer tables for 2D6 and 3D6 Charging with various re-roll abilities
Stylus CSS theme for DakkaDakka forums to hide black avatar background and fully hide ignored users.
Userscript to add a button to open all "[First Unread]" links on the page, hides the "[Blog View]" links, and adds a "Subscribed Threads" link to forum pages.  
   
Made in gb
Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch





avoiding the lorax on Crion

I think its memt to have a min range.

Like some artillery models could not indirect fire under certain ranges only direct iirc

Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.

"May the odds be ever in your favour"

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.

FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.  
   
Made in gb
Norn Queen






 jhe90 wrote:
I think its memt to have a min range.

Like some artillery models could not indirect fire under certain ranges only direct iirc
I think that's the case too but there are no rules to support that view, and a lot of things that had minimum ranges in the past like Basilisks no longer have them.

Add me on Discord: BaconCatBug#0294
+++++There are currently ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN (115) documents required to play Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
+++++List of "broken" RaW in Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective. Even GW agrees with me, send an email to 40kfaq@gwplc.com for a confirmation reply "4. Apply The Rules As Written. If you still don’t have a satisfactory answer, use the rule just as it is written if you possibly can, even if you are not completely happy with the effect the rule has."
Mathhammer tables for 2D6 and 3D6 Charging with various re-roll abilities
Stylus CSS theme for DakkaDakka forums to hide black avatar background and fully hide ignored users.
Userscript to add a button to open all "[First Unread]" links on the page, hides the "[Blog View]" links, and adds a "Subscribed Threads" link to forum pages.  
   
Made in gb
Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch





avoiding the lorax on Crion

 BaconCatBug wrote:
 jhe90 wrote:
I think its memt to have a min range.

Like some artillery models could not indirect fire under certain ranges only direct iirc
I think that's the case too but there are no rules to support that view, and a lot of things that had minimum ranges in the past like Basilisks no longer have them.


I can check the index but id say 18 inch min makes best sense out of not being a gakhole.
The only time you ever be out of range is apoc!

And minus missiles close up its still a nice solid Bastian, cover and gun line first turn bunker.

Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.

"May the odds be ever in your favour"

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.

FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.  
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut



Glasgow

If it says it's range is between 18 and 96 then 10 would be outside that range
   
Made in gb
Norn Queen






U02dah4 wrote:
If it says it's range is between 18 and 96 then 10 would be outside that range
Did you bother reading the rest of the thread and/or the rules?

If you can show me where it says the 18 means minimum range, please do.

By that logic if a Heavy Bolter says 36 then 6 is outside that range.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/07/02 16:33:01


Add me on Discord: BaconCatBug#0294
+++++There are currently ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN (115) documents required to play Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
+++++List of "broken" RaW in Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective. Even GW agrees with me, send an email to 40kfaq@gwplc.com for a confirmation reply "4. Apply The Rules As Written. If you still don’t have a satisfactory answer, use the rule just as it is written if you possibly can, even if you are not completely happy with the effect the rule has."
Mathhammer tables for 2D6 and 3D6 Charging with various re-roll abilities
Stylus CSS theme for DakkaDakka forums to hide black avatar background and fully hide ignored users.
Userscript to add a button to open all "[First Unread]" links on the page, hides the "[Blog View]" links, and adds a "Subscribed Threads" link to forum pages.  
   
Made in gb
Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets





Cardiff

It's obviously intended to be a min and max bracketed range. You know that though. No one can point out where this is specified if it has been omitted. its possible to be nicer and still discuss this.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Sentient OverBear






Clearwater, FL

BaconCatBug, the way you're posting and arguing this point really seems like trolling. You may be able to convince some local players to play this with no minimum range, but that won't fly most places.

Since this thread does seem to be trying to argue something that was obviously overlooked in the rules, I'm locking it.

DQ:70S++G+++M+B++I+Pw40k94+ID+++A++/sWD178R+++T(I)DM+++

Trust me, no matter what damage they have the potential to do, single-shot weapons always flatter to deceive in 40k.                                                                                                       Rule #1
- BBAP

 
   
 
Forum Index » 40K You Make Da Call
Go to: