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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 16:53:15
Subject: Open Topped and overwatch
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Not sure if this is a well thats an interesting qwerk of 8th or there is some precedent for it to be allowed:
Had a game last night where i charged my mate's truk full of burna boyz, naturally he rubs his hands for the ensuing overwatch at me and then i was like hang on... can they even shoot me....
Oppen topped rules are generally the same across dataslates and as far as i can see the answer is no, they can't actually do it!
missed anything?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 17:06:08
Subject: Open Topped and overwatch
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In 7th units had explicit permission to fire overwatch if their vehicle was charged.
That doesn't exist in 8th.
The unit being charged is the vehicle, not the unit inside. Open topped just gives permission to shoot in the shooting phase in 8th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 17:14:43
Subject: Open Topped and overwatch
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Yea it seems so it really put a frown on his face!
but then on the flip side i made it into combat and the next turn the truk fellback... but nothing stopping the burna boyz inside firing even though the truk fellback
he got his drive by in
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 17:19:48
Subject: Open Topped and overwatch
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
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blaktoof wrote:In 7th units had explicit permission to fire overwatch if their vehicle was charged.
That doesn't exist in 8th.
The unit being charged is the vehicle, not the unit inside. Open topped just gives permission to shoot in the shooting phase in 8th.
Exactly this. You're assaulting the trukk, not the Burnaz inside.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 18:00:26
Subject: Open Topped and overwatch
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Latro_ wrote:Yea it seems so it really put a frown on his face!
but then on the flip side i made it into combat and the next turn the truk fellback... but nothing stopping the burna boyz inside firing even though the truk fellback
he got his drive by in
The open topped rule transfers modifiers and restrictions on the trukk shooting to the passengers, iirc if the truck falls back the passengers can't shoot in general unless they can shoot when falling back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 18:04:56
Subject: Open Topped and overwatch
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Experienced Maneater
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blaktoof wrote: Latro_ wrote:Yea it seems so it really put a frown on his face!
but then on the flip side i made it into combat and the next turn the truk fellback... but nothing stopping the burna boyz inside firing even though the truk fellback
he got his drive by in
The open topped rule transfers modifiers and restrictions on the trukk shooting to the passengers, iirc if the truck falls back the passengers can't shoot in general unless they can shoot when falling back.
Yup, this. The Land Speeder Storm even expands on this in saying that the Land Speeder Storm can shoot after falling back, but the passagers can`t.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 19:44:17
Subject: Open Topped and overwatch
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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wow yea it like says all of that vivdly in the profile!
goes to show how reading stuff in the heat of a game can go
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/02 11:21:48
Subject: Open Topped and overwatch
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Lethal Lhamean
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blaktoof wrote: Latro_ wrote:Yea it seems so it really put a frown on his face!
but then on the flip side i made it into combat and the next turn the truk fellback... but nothing stopping the burna boyz inside firing even though the truk fellback
he got his drive by in
The open topped rule transfers modifiers and restrictions on the trukk shooting to the passengers, iirc if the truck falls back the passengers can't shoot in general unless they can shoot when falling back.
Actually not quite, the open topped rules specifically state that the unit inside can't shoot after falling back even if the vehicle can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/02 15:16:54
Subject: Open Topped and overwatch
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Actually not quite, that is used as an example of a restriction transferring from the vehicle to the passengers via the open topped rule. If the passengers had a special rule that let's them shoot while falling back they could still do so.
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