8th edition Astra militarum tactics : weapon comparison

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Otto von Bludd wrote:
Saber wrote:
I'm not sold on the 'always take more men' conclusion - even though I usually try to do just that!

At some point you run out of space on the board, especially if terrain is dense, and you can't concentrate all of your units in one area. That's when you want a Commander to give you rerolls and get maximum use out of the units that you can employ. Adding more men isn't efficient in that situation because they won't be able to engage optimal targets, and possibly won't be able to engage anything at all. It helps to have a few 'elite' (as elite as Guard can be!) units that pay a premium price to concentrate combat power on a narrow frontage.

I agree, and I think the Combat Engineers are the cream of the crop when it comes to concentrating firepower. Load them in a dual HF Chimera and you have a ton of concentrated damage potential. Give them two meltas and they can engage any target.

vipoid wrote:
Otto von Bludd wrote:
Great thread, thank you. Sadly this is what I suspected that the Wyvern just was not worth it anymore compared to units that fulfill a similar role. I was mentally comparing it just to simple lasguns and thinking, why would I pay for a Wyvern when I can FRFSRF?

Because a Wyvern can fire at enemies 48" away from behind LoS-blocking cover?

Well yes, but as Basilisks and Manticores are almost an auto include for me, and a big horde that will be a good target for the Wyvern's 4d6 probably wont be out of LoS.

Wyverns don't have to be firing at hordes the whole time. A more elite army like marines will possibly have scouts hiding out of sight to grab objectives. Now for a 5 man scout squad would you rather fire that wyvern at them or the basilisk/manticore...or fire the basilisk/manticore at a vehicle/monstrous creature or some other big scary target....?