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Liche Priest Hierophant







changemod wrote:
 yakface wrote:
Spoiler:
changemod wrote:
Crazy_swede wrote:
Ok, so from the FAQ:

Q. Do units that are not Infantry (Vehicles, Monsters
etc.) gain the benefit of cover from woods, ruins etc. if they are at
least 50% obscured by that piece of terrain but are not actually
on or within it?
A. No. Unless they are Infantry, such a unit must meet
the two following conditions to gain the benefit of cover:
• All of its models must be either on or within the terrain.
• The unit must be at least 50% obscured from the point
of view of the firer (note that it doesn’t matter what is
obscuring the target, only that it is obscured).

As I read this, they answer no and then go on to describe excatly the same circumstances as those listed in the question. Very odd...

Also, does this mean that models (like vehicles) obscures and therefore gives cover?

/ Fredrik


They do this a couple of times in both this FAQ and in prior FAQs.

"Simple Question?"

"No, however lengthy pedantry boiling down to yes."


No, they say the unit has to be on/in the terrain AND obscured 50% by it to get cover.

The question was asking if a unit not in terrain could still benefit from that cover if obscured by it, and that answer is no.




Exactly. No, but if you split hairs yes.

Simpler if you want to do that: Reword the question to spell out the correct interpretation, saves space and sounds less pedantic. It's not an interview, the FAQ writer decides the final wording of the question.

No, their response was "No. <Explanation of why it's no>."
They aren't splitting hairs at all, they are explaining why the answer is no, so people can understand WHY it's no (likely because many people who've played previous editions assume that being obscured = in cover, so they are making it clear why it's no and not just some nebulous 'because we say no, go find the rules reason why yourself').


Unless of course you somehow think it's possible for a model to both be standing on/within terrain while also completely not being on/within terrain.

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Made in au
Liche Priest Hierophant







By the rules & by the FaQ, it is not.

Not saying I don't find it stupid myself, mind you - but dem the rules.
Made in au
Liche Priest Hierophant







 perplexiti wrote:
 AndrewC wrote:
Hang on, somebody please correct me if I got this wrong. Longstrike gets to add 1 to all to hit rolls for HH within 6". Which means that they can never overheat the Ion Cannons as 1+1=2 and so they never 'rolled' a 1 for the purposes of overcharging?

Is that right?
Cheers

Andrew


Nah, a natural 1 always fails unless you can reroll it. So keeps one marker light hit relevant to help avoid overheating Longstrike!

That's not how most overheating (including the Ion Cannon) works though, it's based on the modified roll, not the natural roll.
So you might miss because you rolled a natural 1, but your final result isn't a 1 after modifiers.
 
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