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Heyo all,

So running a Battalion + Super Heavy Aux (Comes in at exactly 2000 Pts)

HQ:

Lord Kaldor Draigo

Castellan Crowe

Troops:

2x Five Man Terminator Squad:

Justicar w/ Nemesis Daemon Hammer/Storm Bolter

3x Terminators w/ Nemesis Force Sword/Storm Bolters

1x Terminator w/ Nemesis Force Sword/Psilencer

1x Five Man Termiantor Squad:

Justicar w/ Nemesis Daemon Hammer/Storm Bolter

3x Terminators w/ Nemesis Force Sword/Storm Bolters

1x Terminator w/ Nemesis Force Sword/Psycannon

Heavy Support:

Vortimer Pattern Land Raider Redeemer w/Multi-Melta/Storm Bolter

Lord of War:

Cerastus Knight-Castigator

So game plan is basically have all my big durable targets on the ground that can gain ground relatively quickly (a necessity as half of the army need to be deployed) whilst the Terminators deep strike in to cause target prio issues.

Crowe and 1 Squad of Terminators are going into the Land Raider. Looking at Crowe he doesn't seem too impressive, but is a cheap HQ and seems like he could be handy character for moping up crappy infantry units. I could in turn just have him out and Gate of Infinity the Land Raider up in the opponents grill also (What makes the LR great is that it remains effective throughout the game regardless of damage as flamestorm cannons are always an auto-hit!)

The Knight will hopefully be the one to soak fire whilst the LR moves up the board whilst deep striking the 2 squads of terminators and Draigo at opportune spots.

Thoughts?

Seizeman wrote:
First, there's no reason to play the vortimer. It costs more than the regular redeemer but it is strictly worse, which is pretty ridiculous. Just take a regular one.

What makes it worse? There's a 4 pt difference or something, it does fire 4 shots less from the Psycannon but has a 1str extra. It also get's psy-out assault launchers which the regular one doesn't get which is a nice extra. Plus I kinda like to run my army abit more thematically.

Seizeman wrote:
Also, terminators are just worse than paladins. For the point difference, they are a ton more survivable and do more damage, which is really important if they are the core of your army.

I quite liked the look of the regular terminators as I've seen in quite a few battle reports already that heavy weapons are insta killing the more "durable" paladins with all the D3 and D6 weapons out there and that having more normal Terminators seems to be the way to go.

As for the Knight he's in the list to be a real threat to be able to destroy any unit on the table and moves quickly as he's the cerastus variant.

Cheers for the input in any case

Seizeman wrote:
The only difference between the regular redeemer vs the vortimer is the vortimer get's psy launchers, which are just a worse version of the frag launcher the redeemer has. The vortimer also costs 11 more points. You are paying 11 points for a downgrade, which makes zero sense. Also the assault cannon is better than the psycannon against every target.

My bad about the points difference, didn't look close enough. It's a valid point, maybe I'll just rock the Forgeworld model for aesthetics and run it as a Redeemer.

As for the Paladins, I'm still not convinced purely on witnessing half a dozen batreps with Paladins not doing much more than the regular termies to warrant their points. I'll see how my first game goes then do the switch up and lose the 2 command points and just run Vanguard instead.

Thanks for commenting, feedback is always appreciated!

I'm actually looking to just switch out the Land Raider for a Storm Raven w/ Lascannons/Missiles/Bolters and also switch Crowe for a Grand Master w/hammer, it takes me back perfectly to 2000 pts (Those were the models I had yet to buy).

Then see how it goes. If I get stomped then I'll think about buying even more new units. But the main reason why I play GK's is for Terminators

Cheers guys

Sadly I've got the model already as it was so boss in 7th, the cannon on him is pretty decent in 8th I've found regardless, including the obvious plus of his amazing combat ability. Hoping the Stormraven weapon platform would help with this.

Seems to be quite the split on Pala's/Strike Squads/Terminators

I guess it's really early on into 8th so there's no real meta yet. Will be interesting when the GK codex comes out that's round the corner which may make the decisions alot easier.

I've seen some nasty stormraven/purifier smite spam lists already, but that's so dry