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Tankbustas x12 Rokkit Launchas mounted in Trukk 292
Nobs on Bikes x 5 Big Choppas 255
Warbikes x9 243
Deff Dread x3 Dread Klaw (2) Big Shoota (2) [/b]393[b]
Comes out to about 2k pts.
With such a small unit count, this list will probably go first most of the time.
The idea is to use the swarm of stormboyz and first turn to control the tempo, and make the battle occur on my terms. The DeffDreads shore up the rear and will come in to crush any hard targets that I've used the boyz to tarpit.
Nobz / Warboss charge units that are too tough for the boys, buy still manageable at AP -1. (Should I consider running Power Klaws?)
Warbikes are for general volume of fire where needed.
I've considered swapping the Nobz for basic Warbikes and the Deff Dreads for a duplicate unit of Tankbustas, but I'm not sure if a second squad of the tankbustas would be a good tradeoff for the increased CC effectiveness of the Nobz.
This is my first attempt at writing an Ork list, so I might be way off the mark. Any input appreciated.
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Froth at the top, dregs at the bottom, but the middle - excellent
I like the idea of having a KFF... could be *really* useful.
The assessment that would go with that swap would be that the Warboss isn't needed for h2h, which may very well be accurate.
To MSU the tankbustas I'd need more elite slots which could create a force org issue.
The item in this list I actually am most unsure about is the Deff Dreads - see a definitely role for them, but I don't know if they'll be needed / the best choice for the points.for a few more points I could get a morkanaught which would get me a field as well; it just couldn't be in 3 places at once.
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Froth at the top, dregs at the bottom, but the middle - excellent
I would consider swapping the warboss for Zadsnark from Imperial Armor: Xenos. His klaw doesn't have -1 to hit and he costs 1 point less for some reason.
Battlescribe only has him at 110, but it could be an error. The way some points values are added up in this edition is a little odd for special char. without options.
Nobz on Bike [19 PL, 255pts] . Boss Nob on Bike: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
I wasn't sure Zad had to pay for his big shootas since they come on his bike. Battlescribe will change it in the future if it needs changing.
The list looks good--most people are saying stormboyz are superior to bikers right now since bikers cost went up and they lost exhaust cloud and jink. It might be better to swap your warbikers and nob bikers into 2 units of warbikers with a nob each instead to save some points. I haven't used my warbikers this edition yet because of the price hike so I can't say whether nob bikers are worth it or not but this edition favors larger units as orks.
xlDuke wrote: Zhadsnark does have to pay for his Big Shootas, the table in the back of the book is labelled "doesn't include wargear".
I'll pull te Rokkit launcha off of the first Deff Dread to pay for this.
The commentary about bikers being more expensive (and therefore possibly less worthwhile) makes me wonder about what else I could sub in that would be more effective.
The Nobz/Boss in the list were included specifically for handling 'medium-hard' targets that couldn't be handled by a deluge of boyz or mass biker fire.
With the core of the list being an onslaught of Stormboyz, followed up by Deff Dreads to crack hard targets (I'm open to substitution ideas for this role too, but getting the 3 for 1 in unit deployment is hard to bear, given the importance of first turn with this type of list) I'd like input on how to make the list the 'best possible' for an all-comers environment.
Froth at the top, dregs at the bottom, but the middle - excellent
So, I talked with he guys at my FLGS last night, and got some advice.... here's the revised version running a Morkanaut instead of the Deff Dreads - the KFF is probably a mus if I want the Stormboyz to survive at all.
I'd like to get this list to a point where I can take it to a tourney and at least hold my own - I know it's probably not gonna be a winner against a pile of Tau Comms with Ion Rakers and all that stupidity.
Nobz on Bike [19 PL, 255pts] . Boss Nob on Bike: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
Rismonite wrote: I think the Morkanaught is a waste in this style list and will give your opponent something to put his anti tank weapons into.
I feel like a thirty strong commitment to Stormboyz demands a Powerklaw Nob.
I am not sold on Nob bikers yet. Maybe Trukk nobz?
Get a Waaagh Banner Nob.. get two.. can we get two? If we can, take another unit of big choppa nobz on trukk instead of the Morkanaught.
My next point, you could pickup more CP by dividing things into smaller groups and seperating slots into more detachments
I definitely get the thought that the Morkanaught wouldn't be effective - would you say forego running a KFF, or would you suggest taking a Mek on Bike with the KFF?
I kept the number of units small on purpose - getting 1st turn seems more important to me - The reworked list below is only one more plop (8) than the original.
My concern would be that the Nobz in the Trukk won't end up mobile enough to do much. I suppose the truck only needs to live long enough to move/advnace on my first turn and then it's gonna be blown up, but with by advancing, hopefully the banners can be within 6" of the boyz.
Here's the my iteration of the list with your reccommendations:
Nobz [11 PL, 130pts] . Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
Nobz [11 PL, 130pts] . Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
+ Dedicated Transport + Trukk [5 PL, 82pts]: Big Shoota
++ Total: [115 PL, 2000pts] ++
The net result of the change is swapping the Morkanaught for a Trukk, and doubling the number of Nobz, + 2 Banner Nobz. but they're not on bikes...
I'd like this a LOT more if I could get banner Nobz on a bike or with a jump pack - the 5" move just makes them really out of step with the rest of the list. In the event the opponent gets first turn (via less plops or seizing) the Trukk w/ Nobz ends up looking a lot worse than the Morkanaught.
I think the argument against the Morkanaught holds water - but I don't think trukk nobz are the answer - either more biker Nobz (and if Biker Nobz are circumspect, this isn't a good answer either) or just a bunch more Warbikers?
What about instead of dropping the Morkanaught, dropping he tankbustas and putting two Deff Dreads back in?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Here's a version w/ no Biker Nobz, and no Morkanaught,.
I put a Boss Nob w/ Power Claw in every unit, and it's got 2 maxed out squads of normal bikers
I would run the tankbustas in multiple small units so they can get more nobz and throw more tankbusta bombs. In a trukk there is no disadvantage. You can have 1 unit fire entirely without having to worry about overkill on something.
