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Pretty self explanatory. I don't think the large number of MC shooting platforms will overcome the weaknesses of MC's in 8th, tho.


++ Spearhead Detachment (Tyranids) ++

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [103 PL, 1998pts] ++

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [10 PL, 211pts]: Prehensile Pincer Tail, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots, Wings

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarm [4 PL, 44pts]: 4x Ripper Swarm

Ripper Swarm [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

+ Heavy Support +

Carnifexes [18 PL, 342pts]
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Carnifexes [18 PL, 342pts]
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Carnifexes [18 PL, 342pts]
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Exocrine [11 PL, 228pts]: Bio-plasmic Cannon, Powerful Limbs

Exocrine [11 PL, 228pts]: Bio-plasmic Cannon, Powerful Limbs

Exocrine [11 PL, 228pts]: Bio-plasmic Cannon, Powerful Limbs

++ Total: [103 PL, 1998pts] ++

Are you missing Monsterous Scythes on the Carnifexen?

pinecone77 wrote:
Are you missing Monsterous Scythes on the Carnifexen?

Using them as gun platforms is kinda the point, instead of CC... There's 9 of them with 12 shots each...

Lacking synapse control for sure.
And maelstrom objective games might be rough with the model count.

 Ratius wrote:
Lacking synapse control for sure.
And maelstrom objective games might be rough with the model count.

Drop the rippers and an Exocrine for squads of warriors with DS and Boneswords?

if you want more synapse coverage instead of running 1 huge spearhead, why not run multiple detachments? you could do 2 or 3 each lead by a Tyrant to spread synapse, probably trim the wings to save points.

I also think a few Heavy Venom cannons probably on the tyrants would go a long way to help your shooting against T8

and if anyone knows the official ruling on it, the wargear options on Monsters says you may replace both pairs of weps with 2 items from the bio-cannons list. But on the wargear section right before the datasheets it says *A model CANNOT be armed with more than one cannon
do anyone know an "official" statement on which ruling we should follow?

Do they need synapse? The carnifex will be operating as individual units after deployment.

You could also give them bio-plasma in addition for some extra close up killing power.

 btChampion wrote:
if you want more synapse coverage instead of running 1 huge spearhead, why not run multiple detachments? you could do 2 or 3 each lead by a Tyrant to spread synapse, probably trim the wings to save points.

I also think a few Heavy Venom cannons probably on the tyrants would go a long way to help your shooting against T8

and if anyone knows the official ruling on it, the wargear options on Monsters says you may replace both pairs of weps with 2 items from the bio-cannons list. But on the wargear section right before the datasheets it says *A model CANNOT be armed with more than one cannon
do anyone know an "official" statement on which ruling we should follow?

Only 2 of the "Monstrous Bio-Cannons" are marked with the Asterisk, so you can't take 2 venom cannons.

 Ratius wrote:
Lacking synapse control for sure.
And maelstrom objective games might be rough with the model count.

Ah, misread the write up!

Hmmm?

Quoted the wrong post. Due to my health issues I have a hard time controlling a mouse.

Here's a revision... This can actually be run as two detachments for CPs but the units are right

Do ya'll think this list would hold it's own? On paper it's a whole lot of dakka, but on paper and in practice are very different things.


++ Spearhead Detachment (Tyranids) ++

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [114 PL, 1998pts] ++

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [10 PL, 174pts]: Heavy Venom Cannon, Monstrous Rending Claws, Prehensile Pincer Tail

Hive Tyrant [10 PL, 174pts]: Heavy Venom Cannon, Monstrous Rending Claws, Prehensile Pincer Tail

+ Troops +

Termagants [9 PL, 84pts]: 21x Termagant (Fleshborer)

Termagants [9 PL, 84pts]: 21x Termagant (Fleshborer)

+ Heavy Support +

Carnifexes [18 PL, 342pts]
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Carnifexes [18 PL, 342pts]
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Carnifexes [18 PL, 342pts]
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots
. Carnifex: Thresher Scythe, 2x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots

Exocrine [11 PL, 228pts]: Bio-plasmic Cannon, Powerful Limbs

Exocrine [11 PL, 228pts]: Bio-plasmic Cannon, Powerful Limbs

++ Total: [114 PL, 1998pts] ++

I feel like the hive tyrant with venom cannon is kind of meh. 174 points and only D3 shots at long range.

Have you considered replacing the hive tyrants with malanthropes? They can move up with the carnifex and give them -1 to be hit and can't be targetted. And if you can work one of them within 1" when a unit dies you get the re-roll 1st to hit which helps with their crappy BS/WS.

Also Ill just throw Old One Eye out there. Yeah he's all melee but your carnifex are going to get into melee and he will give them +1 to hit. Also he's a beast against vehicles and things that are T8 which I think you may still struggle with. You can put him in a tyrannocyte w/5 venom cannons which isn't a bad way to get him up the field.

Just some ideas.

Tyrants are totally /meh. Just figured I need something with synapse...

Maybe pull one of the tyrants for some warriors? Could use them to keep the exo's happy and obj?

The core of this list (the part I'm attached to) is the idea of shooty 'fex spam. I'd love any/all ideas on what to run with the 9 fexes.

Maybe swap the exocrines for hive guard?


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Here's an alternate that has better tools for T8 targets and will probably have a better time with maelstorm / obj. Not sure I really like the warriors/primes in this list, but it'll be seeing plenty of CC and warriors with swords aren't half bad.

++ Battalion (CP +3) (Tyranids) [1994 Pts] ++

+ Troops +

Termagaunts [60 Pts]: 15x Fleshborer, 15x Termagaunt

Termagaunts [60 Pts]: 15x Fleshborer, 15x Termagaunt

Tyranid Warriors [96 Pts]: 3x Boneswords, 3x Deathspitter, 3x Warrior

Tyranid Warriors [96 Pts]: 3x Boneswords, 3x Deathspitter, 3x Warrior

+ Elites +

Hive Guard [144 Pts]: 3x Hive Guard, 3x Impaler Cannon

Hive Guard [144 Pts]: 3x Hive Guard, 3x Impaler Cannon

Hive Guard [144 Pts]: 3x Hive Guard, 3x Impaler Cannon

+ HQ +

Tyranid Prime [112 Pts]: Boneswords, Deathspitter

Tyranid Prime [112 Pts]: Boneswords, Deathspitter

+ Heavy Support +

Carnifexes [342 Pts]: 3x Carnifex, 3x Thresher Scythe
. 6x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots: 12x Deathspitter with Slimer Maggots

Carnifexes [342 Pts]: 3x Carnifex, 3x Thresher Scythe
. 6x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots: 12x Deathspitter with Slimer Maggots

Carnifexes [342 Pts]: 3x Carnifex, 3x Thresher Scythe
. 6x Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots: 12x Deathspitter with Slimer Maggots

+ 'Faction +

Hive Fleet Selection: Kraken

++ Total: [1994 Pts] ++

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