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2017/07/09 18:56:42
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I'm wondering why Vassal 40k isn't more widely adopted? It's amazing, and I would think with how many tens-of-thousands of 40k players are on this forum alone, it would come up more.
It's great. I might start a vendetta to get it more wide-spread. Anyone with me?
http://www.3plusplus.net/2017/07/5-reasons-can-master-8th-faster-vassal-40k/
Download Vassal 40k module
Download Vassal Game-Engine
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This message was edited 8 times. Last update was at 2017/07/09 19:00:42
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2017/07/09 19:01:37
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Personally, I completely understand why. It's lacking all the interaction that I play 40k for. Don't enjoy playing vassal.
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2017/07/09 19:06:38
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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7ed killed it. It was impossible to get good pick up games with all the rules bloat and shinanigans. As such less and less players used it which snowballed into being almost completely dead.
8ed should be much more compatible with the system though
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2017/07/09 19:14:38
Subject: Re:Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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7ed killed it. It was impossible to get good pick up games with all the rules bloat and shinanigans. As such less and less players used it which snowballed into being almost completely dead.
8ed should be much more compatible with the system though
Completely see this too.
8th has reinvigorated my personal attention to Vassal, and now I'm starting to see more people there... I hope it continues, 8th + Vassal is really good.
I've enjoyed trying all sorts of new armies for 8th rules in Vassal... without having to $$$ buy models / amounts without knowing anything about them.
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2017/07/09 19:31:17
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Prefer tabletop simulator to it.
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2017/07/09 19:58:43
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I feel like more people would use it, even just as a 'tool', if they knew about it...
Are there any organized leagues / tournaments / events, or communities for Vassal 40k?
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2017/07/10 09:09:39
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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It lacks the models and interactivity I play this game for, so definitely not my cup of tea.
Some of my friends that used to use it have moved on to tabletop simulator and they say it's really good.
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2017/07/10 10:44:01
Subject: Re:Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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I think, if I was gonna play some form of online 40k TT game, I'd personally go for 40k on Table Top Simulator since it's far more tangable than these 2D 40k games.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
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2017/07/10 12:01:18
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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I think a big reason is that it functions really poorly for 40k. True los doesn't work on vassal, it works better for games with abstract terrain rules because you can easily define the terrain. For example I have used it for Malifaux, and it is easy to define the terrain because all the rules are abstract (this terrain piece is Height 2, soft cover), this has never been the case for 40k.
It also always seems to take a long time to play the game. moving models takes much longer (especially for hordes), it also has issues if you are not using something like Skype to communicate with the opponent, typing out everything takes a long time.
It works ok for playing people you already know, but I feel like the social contract is much less, and if you get in a rules argument you may as well quit the game because you cannot show your opponent the rules.
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2017/07/10 12:17:43
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Because if I wish to play a genuine computer game...I'll just play a computer game.
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2017/07/11 00:04:36
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I used to use this a ton back in the day, 4th edition, to test lists etc to see what I wanted to purchase. Was a lot of good people on back then. I should fire it up again.
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2017/07/11 03:33:07
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Dakka Veteran
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Because, quite frankly, Vassal is an unintuitive, barely interactive experiment from the dark ages of online gaming.
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2017/07/11 03:35:08
Subject: Re:Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Vassal was my exclusive 40k platform from 5e to the end of 6th. 7th killed the community so now I play on TT simulator with friends.
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2017/07/17 04:47:08
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Can you find pick up games on Table Top Simulator ?
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2017/07/17 05:08:49
Subject: Vassal 40k - why isn't it used more?
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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 Badablack wrote:40k starts with the question, “Who is worse, Satan or the Nazis?” And goes from there. It’s a big colorful ball pit full of horrible people screaming and shooting each other.
chromedog wrote:From the Fuggly DEldar of the time, before they let Jes goodwin have his good and proper way with the entire faction design.
I don't want the best army, just one that isn't an exercise in picking up my models by turn 3.
Badablack wrote:40k starts with the question, “Who is worse, Satan or the Nazis?” And goes from there. It’s a big colorful ball pit full of horrible people screaming and shooting each other.
PenitentJake wrote:It doesn't matter if you're not dominating the game; if you have 3-4 x as many models and options than the rest of us and you're still getting new kits, we're still gonna rip on the faction. If I had 100 + Drukhari kits all in plastic to choose from, or 100 + Sisters kits, I think I'd be more likely to be receptive to Space Marine player's complaints about anything.
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