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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine





Across the Great Divide

So with the new alternating deployment I have a question regarding units that can infiltrate, namely tau stealthsuits and ghostkeels.

The infiltrator rule says you can set this unit up anywhere not in the enemy deployment zone or within 12" of an enemy. However if you have first deployment can you set up such a unit anywhere? There are no enemy units to avoid so you could be any place not in your opponents deployment zone.

Or is the restriction retroactively placed on a unit and thus making it an illegal deployment?

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Fireknife Shas'el




Lisbon, Portugal

I'm interested in knowing this as well.

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The scouts rule says 9" from enemy deployment zone. I don't have Xenos 2, but I'd make sure it doesn't give a distance from the deployment zone.

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I can't think of a model with such a rule, but if the rule doesn't state when it needs to be placed, you can place it early during the deployment

 
   
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I looked up the rule, and the stealthsuit does deploy 12" from enemy models and not in the enemy deployment zone.

So it looks like yes, you could set early near the deployment zone when there are less models. But the enemy models only need to be 1" away from you, and I imagine if you're close enough you'd get lit up.

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Across the Great Divide

 3orangewhips wrote:
The scouts rule says 9" from enemy deployment zone. I don't have Xenos 2, but I'd make sure it doesn't give a distance from the deployment zone.


There is no restriction for the tau rule. It reads: unit can be set up anywhere on the battlefield that is not within your opponents deployment zone and is more than 12" from any enemy unit.


terry wrote:
I can't think of a model with such a rule, but if the rule doesn't state when it needs to be placed, you can place it early during the deployment


As I said tau stealthsuits and ghostkeels have this rule. And that is my interpretation as well that if placed early these units can end up within 12" but not when they were placed.

Forest hunter sept ~3500
guardians of the covenant 4th company ~ 6000
Warrior based hive fleet

DA:90S+G++M++B--I+PW40k07+D++A++/areWD-R++T(T)DM+ 
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

If you place this unit first, yes, wherever you like, within the restrictions in the unit's rules (not within enemy deployment zone for Stealth Suits as mentioned). As there are no other models placed yet you don't need to worry about the 'not within 12" of enemy units' clause... everywhere is more than 12".

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/07/11 13:38:36


 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Lisbon, Portugal

I think if you deploy your unit first, it respected the 'not within 12" of an enemy unit'. When the enemy player deploys his unit within 12" of yours, your unit was already deploy - so it doesn't need to check again if it is within 12" of an enemy unit.

AI & BFG: / BMG: Mr. Freeze, Deathstroke / Battletech: SR, OWA / Fallout Factions: BoS / HGB: Caprice / Malifaux: Arcanists, Guild, Outcasts / MCP: Mutants / SAGA: Ordensstaat / SW Legion: CIS / WWX: Union

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"

 Shadenuat wrote:
Voted Astra Militarum for a chance for them to get nerfed instead of my own army.
 
   
 
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