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So I'm looking for advice. I'm looking to try the Magnus + Renegade knight list out. What does that typically look like?

Magnus, two knights, the changeling & brimstone horrors.

A heldrake or exalted Flamers to taste.

Get ready to make no friends.

i lately played this list

Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [21 PL, 415pts]

Lord of War [21 PL, 415pts]
Magnus the Red [21 PL, 415pts]

Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Daemons)

Daemon Prince of Chaos with Wings [11 PL, 180pts]
Malefic talon [10pts], Tzeentch
Herald of Tzeentch on Disc [5 PL, 104pts]
Staff of Change [5pts]
Herald of Tzeentch on Disc [5 PL, 104pts]
Staff of Change [5pts]

Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Daemons)

Herald of Tzeentch [4 PL, 83pts]
Staff of Change [5pts]
The Changeling [5 PL, 100pts]
Troops [60 PL, 218pts]
Horrors [10 PL, 43pts]
Blue Horror [5pts], 19x Pair of Brimstone Horrors [38pts
Horrors [10 PL, 43pts]
Blue Horror [5pts], 19x Pair of Brimstone Horrors [38pts]
Horrors [10 PL, 43pts]
Blue Horror [5pts], 19x Pair of Brimstone Horrors [38pts]
Horrors [10 PL, 43pts]
Blue Horror [5pts], 19x Pair of Brimstone Horrors [38pts]
Horrors [10 PL, 23pts]
Blue Horror [5pts], 9x Pair of Brimstone Horrors [18pts]
Horrors [10 PL, 23pts]
Blue Horror [5pts], 9x Pair of Brimstone Horrors [18pts]
Elites [16 PL, 280pts]
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]

Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes)

Lord of War [25 PL, 514pts]
Kytan Ravager [25 PL, 514pts]
Kytan gatling cannon [184pts]

I ran this against an Admech with knight, and a primaris marine army and tabled both of them by turn 3. Not sure how it would hold up to a huge horde list, but it eats elite armies for sure.

Battalion:

HQ:
Chaos Lord - 74 pts
Malefic Lord - 30 pts

Troops:
Brimstone Horrors x15 - 30 pts
Brimstone Horrors x15 - 30 pts
Brimstone Horrors x10 - 20 pts

Fast Attack:
Raptors x5 - Plasma gun x2, Plasma Pistol x2 - 125 pts
Raptors x5 - Plasma gun x2, Plasma Pistol x2 - 125 pts

Elites:
Contemptor - Kheres Assault Cannon x2 - 166 pts
Contemptor - Kheres Assault Cannon x2 - 166 pts
Marauders x5 - Plasma gun x2 - 44 pts

Heavy Support:
Giant Chaos Spawn - Nurgle - 75 pts
Giant Chaos Spawn - Nurgle - 75 pts
Giant Chaos Spawn - Nurgle - 75 pts

SH Auxiliary:
Magnus (Warlord) - 415 pts

SH Auxiliary:
Renegade Knight Atropos - 555 pts


2000 pts

Edit: always make Magnus your warlord, and give him the +1 attack trait. Makes him 8 attacks at s16, and, he almost never misses with any.

why the atropos? if you would like something better against hordes you might try a standard Ik with double gatling and double heavy flamer, it eats alive hordes.

I brought the atropos because I knew I'd be facing some tough units (he killed the opposing knight in a single round of combat). For a more general purpose list, I'd take a fire raptor instead, and use the spare points for more brimstones etc.

Fire raptor with Magnus is far better at hordes than a gatling knight. And is almost 200 pts cheaper. The knights are best used as anti-vehicle/mc - that's where the true potential is (and they're really scary when they steamroll through tanks and nid monsters). For hordes etc, there are better units available to us.

how did you find the giant spawns?

 XT-1984 wrote:
Magnus, two knights, the changeling & brimstone horrors.

A heldrake or exalted Flamers to taste.

Get ready to make no friends.

Does magnus have the Titanic keyword by any chance? or is it just the Knights?

Im playing about with a comp list and want to see how much my Gauss pylon actually threatens.

 Klowny wrote:
Does magnus have the Titanic keyword by any chance? or is it just the Knights?

Im playing about with a comp list and want to see how much my Gauss pylon actually threatens.

Nope just monster.

And id assume then that none of the big demons would either by extension?

Regardless, a pylon could come dangerously close to one shotting even Magnus? He has a 4++, but if rolled well only two out of D6 need to pass a 4++ and he's gone. Can't imagine how a knight would go.

The big 4 daemons do have Titanic


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He can reroll 1s on his 4++ too.

 blackmage wrote:
how did you find the giant spawns?

Very effective units. My opponents gave them little thought, and realised their error once they'd made it into combat and locked down some nasty units for the entire game (they're crazy durable for 75pts).

my buddy and I have both been running versions of this list.

The one I've been trying goes as follows:

Super-Heavy Detachment:

(LoW)Magnus the Red
(LoW)Renagade Knight / Avenger Gatling Cannon(2) / Stormspear Rocket Pod / Heavy Stubber / Heavy Flamer(2)
(LoW)Renegade Knight / Avenger Gatling Cannon / Reaper Chainsword / Stormspear Rocket Pod / Heavy Stubber
(LoW)Renegade Knight / Avenger Gatling Cannon / Reaper Chainsword / Stormspear Rocket Pod / Heavy Stubber

comes in at 1996 with 6 command points. This list has been performing very well. It tables a lot of games, and you pretty much have to, as you have such an extremely low model count, you stand little hope in winning the objective game.

Why the double Avengers? Seems like having at least one Thermal cannon would be worth it. Also, Stormspear seem pricey for what they do. I think one Icarus and then Ironstorm may be better. Though what to do with the remainder points... who knows. Maybe Changeling and some Brimstones if you can afford it.

I would play just Magnus+double Knight with saved points brimstones and exalted flamers so you have mass and some extra firepower