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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/31 21:59:59
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hello All,
So this would be my first time running the Dark Kin, but as a casual observer and someone who has been watching quite a few Dark Eldar 8th edition batreps I have become quite fond of what their army has to bring. Their special rules and gameplay seems to be very fun, fluffy, fast, and hard-hitting. I am very seriously considering adding the Drukhari to my list of armies. I believe the list I have come up with is fairly competitive but also fun/fluffy. There are most likely 1-2 choices in here that are not really optimal but I just want to know if you all think this army can be competitive on the table.
2000 PTS - Battalion Detachment (+3 CP)
HQ -
Archon (Warlord 6+ FNP)
Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Agoniser, Blaster
Succubus (+1 T Combat Drugs)
Archite Glaive, Blast Pistol
Court of the Archon
4x Slyth - Shardcarbine x4, slyth sword x4
TROOPS -
5x Kaballte Warriors
Splinter Rifle x4, Blaster x1
5x Kabalite Warriors
Sprinter Rifle x4, Blaster x1
9x Wyches (+1 STR for Combat Drugs)
Hecatrix Blade x7, Hydra Gauntlets x1, agoniser x1
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS -
Venom (For Incubi)
2x Splinter Cannon
Venom (For Warriors)
2x Sprinter Cannon
Venom (For Warriors)
2x Splinter Cannon
Venom (For Archon + Slyth)
2x Sptiner Cannon
Raider (For Wyches + Succubus)
Dark Lance, Shock Prow
ELITES -
5x Incubi
4x Klaives, 1x Demiklaives
9x Mandrakes
8x regular, 1x leader
FAST ATTACK -
Razorwing Jetfighter
2x Dark Lance, Missiles, Splinter Rifle
Razorwing Jetfighter
2x Dark Lance, Missiles, Spinter Rifle
6x Razorwing Flock/Swarm (cant remember name)
HEAVY SUPPORT -
Ravager
3x Dark Lance
Ravager
3x Dark Lance
So what does everybody think, a competitive list, what would you improve?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/01 06:46:44
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Your list looks nice, maybe thing about getting a desintegrator cannon on each Ravager!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/01 10:49:35
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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Looks very solid. I'd only suggest to spare a few points and stick a beastmaster that rides near the birds to buff their crappy Ld.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/02 15:26:49
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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why give your Archon the WLT of a 6+ FNP he auto gets it first turn because of Power from Pain right?
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Necrons - 6000+
Eldar/DE/Harlequins- 6000+
Genestealer Cult - 2000
Currently enthralled by Blanchitsu and INQ28. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/02 17:26:14
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Been Around the Block
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Not a huge fan of the court, not sure they will ever get their points back. Also not sure of 5 incubi. Their major downfall has always been their lack of an invuln. Now with modifiers to AP and only one wound, they are waiting to get squashed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/02 18:52:55
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Obviously its FW, and you may not have one, or may not be able to use it in your events (although I cant imagine there still being events which don't permit it...) I would consider the tantalus. Its a monster these days. Huge damage output and better carrying capacity. Give it coven keyword and keep a haemon by it and its T8!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/03 14:04:20
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You could drop the Archon's & the Incubi's Venom's, and put them together in a Raider w/disintegrator, add a disintegrator to the Wyches Raider, and pick up a Beastmaster w/agoniser and be at 2000 pts. exactly.
The Beastmaster will really help keep the Flocks alive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/04 04:21:53
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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supreme overlord wrote:why give your Archon the WLT of a 6+ FNP he auto gets it first turn because of Power from Pain right?
You are absolutely right, this shows how new to the DE I am. I forgot about Power from Pain right off the bat.
I agree that the incubi and court probably aren't the best units (or needed), but they are so fluffy and don't seem sooo god awful that they will hamper the army. I plan to run my original list in testing for a game or 2 to see what happens, then apply these suggestions and tweeks. Thanks again everyone!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/04 04:53:32
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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EldarExarch wrote: supreme overlord wrote:why give your Archon the WLT of a 6+ FNP he auto gets it first turn because of Power from Pain right?
You are absolutely right, this shows how new to the DE I am. I forgot about Power from Pain right off the bat.
I agree that the incubi and court probably aren't the best units (or needed), but they are so fluffy and don't seem sooo god awful that they will hamper the army. I plan to run my original list in testing for a game or 2 to see what happens, then apply these suggestions and tweeks. Thanks again everyone!
You get both rolls, per the faq-unless one of the rule states otherwise.
Razorwing flocks are also 14 ppm instead of 7 ppm per the 1.1 xenos faq, not sure if that's considered as you don't list points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/04 22:05:55
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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blaktoof wrote:EldarExarch wrote: supreme overlord wrote:why give your Archon the WLT of a 6+ FNP he auto gets it first turn because of Power from Pain right?
You are absolutely right, this shows how new to the DE I am. I forgot about Power from Pain right off the bat.
I agree that the incubi and court probably aren't the best units (or needed), but they are so fluffy and don't seem sooo god awful that they will hamper the army. I plan to run my original list in testing for a game or 2 to see what happens, then apply these suggestions and tweeks. Thanks again everyone!
You get both rolls, per the faq-unless one of the rule states otherwise.
Razorwing flocks are also 14 ppm instead of 7 ppm per the 1.1 xenos faq, not sure if that's considered as you don't list points.
Ya I do know that you get both rolls per the FAQ, but do you think that this worth it since I have the slyth anyways to throw wounds on to? Do you think the leadership trait or +1 attack are better?
Also I'm wondering if this is how it would work with relation to the Archon Shield and his bodyguard.
Say I fail a 2+ Shadowfield save, can I then roll a 2+ to move the wound onto the Slyth and therefor retain your 2+ invul save on the archon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/06 01:52:13
Subject: Re:[2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Good list! Dont worry about that second 6+roll just take legendary fight its nice to ger that extra attack. Im
Not a huge fan of venom spam although i do know how popular its become. Try to squeeze a voidraven in its
Unbelievable the crying youll see from the voidbomb dropping haha. I dont like incubi either but i love the models. They do better with drazar if you can manage to get him in
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/06 17:12:02
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - First Time Pain - COMP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If you fail the save and transfer the wound you still failed the save for shadowfield.
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