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Hey guys

This isn't a rant about primaris marines, but I'm wondering, with all the releases around them, are the space wolves likely to include large numbers of the primaris marines in their army? Is it going to be a large focal point for the wolves, and the blood/dark angels? If so, I'm tempted to drop what I have and start a Death Korps army. I'm not against people wanting to play with primaris marines, they're simply just not for me. I don't like that every faction so far has accesss to every released. It's kinda a losing the uniqueness of each army. In my head anshah.

What do you guys thinks going to happen?

Apparently wolves do already have Primaris Marines, but the narrative isn't focused on them (or really any of the "big three" non-vanilla chapters) so we don't really know what's in store for them.

All we know is that these guys are apparently not (either more resistant or outright immune) susceptible to the Wulfen curse, which may come to a head later down the line since the Wulfen curse was a pretty big thing and caused the suspicions of the Inquisition to fall upon the sons of Russ. I would imagine, if they got back to it, that Grimnar would be forced to accept more primaris marines into the fold as a way to contain the curse, and be bitter about it as the Primaris marines soon outnumber the true sons of russ and possibly dilute their traditions.

All of that's speculation though. It's also stated that new Primaris marines would be allowed to be fully immersed in the chapter creed and traditions, so nothing might come of it.

Personally i dont think we are gonna get mutch primaris stuff shoved down our throats this time around. With all current releases it feels too niche and too ambitious for GW to do specific codex primaris. And the primaris stuff is not exactly with godlike rules. Down the line, probably in 2018 i think we might see some for our codex. So if you are allergic to them completely, well better shut it down now and start Death Korps, better safe than sorry.

Not a fan of primaris, but i think they are gonna keep being options and not a essential backbone of our army. And if the codex rolls out with great rules (not just only primaris), perhaps Leman Russ coming back at some point, will you still stand resolute in your choice?

To me its Wolves or nothing. Ive learned that after trying 2 different armies.

Ya know what you do with an old, sick dawg? You put it down. Take away it's misery. It's a mercy.

Or, you can stick with it until you get a Codex, which will probably be within the next six months. Your choice.

Primaris marines can fill certain niches in a Wolf army but I don't think they are going to be in any way necessary to stay in the game unless they come up with something really surprising. If the fluff says primaris are less susceptible to the curse it doesn't seem likely we would see some bloodcrazed big berserking primaris "wulfen" any time soon. Overall the vanilla primaris just feel too.. how should I put this, Codex-approved. Just bland.

No SW player wants those nasty primaris in his army. Stick with them, pure wolves are a decent faction that doesn't need gigantic marines.

I hate feeling resentment towards what they've done. I've always had a huge soft spot for my wolves. They fit every angle of the hobby for me 1) lore:- they have LOADS. 2) unique models:- they always stood out to me more than any other marine army, back in 4th. 3) play style:- my other army is orks, so they're kinda like a more elite variant.

But I feel like this whole primaris thing sucks. Like a couple of you guys have said, doesn't really 'feel' like the wolves would accept them. I get it's just tech, and they come from Fenris. But I loved the susceptible gene they have. But the way I see it, is, if they make primaris marines acceptable to every marine chapter. Say... 50% (marines, wolves, dark and blood angels) then that's a 50% buyer base. If you made releases for a niche army say... wolves at 10%. Then that's a loss for GW. I want russ to come back and give Girlyman the middle finger with his primaris marines. Russ embraced the route and their flaws. He didn't care about the inquisition. That's the rebellious side I like.

Just curioius, isn't Fenris was officially burned by TS (and then finished by inqusition), and planet's soul was drained by Magnus's silver towers to make Sorcerers planet reappear in real space?

I guess there is no place to take new recruits and the primaris reinforcements are sent from Mars.

 Andy140491 wrote:
I hate feeling resentment towards what they've done. I've always had a huge soft spot for my wolves. They fit every angle of the hobby for me 1) lore:- they have LOADS. 2) unique models:- they always stood out to me more than any other marine army, back in 4th. 3) play style:- my other army is orks, so they're kinda like a more elite variant.

But I feel like this whole primaris thing sucks. Like a couple of you guys have said, doesn't really 'feel' like the wolves would accept them. I get it's just tech, and they come from Fenris. But I loved the susceptible gene they have. But the way I see it, is, if they make primaris marines acceptable to every marine chapter. Say... 50% (marines, wolves, dark and blood angels) then that's a 50% buyer base. If you made releases for a niche army say... wolves at 10%. Then that's a loss for GW. I want russ to come back and give Girlyman the middle finger with his primaris marines. Russ embraced the route and their flaws. He didn't care about the inquisition. That's the rebellious side I like.

Well they already are "acceptable", meaning that almost all the Primaris units are available to the Space Wolves. But there really is no NEED to take any of them. It's just GW's new shiny thing that they want to shove down everyone's throat but it doesn't mean we have to swallow it. Just stick with your Wolves and keep em pure.

I think it sucks, so I won't be buying any.

Vote with your wallet.

Sell them and use Primaris Marines as Grey Hunters. Truescale marines are best marines.

I'm not planning to add any unless they get a decent melee unit I don't see the point, hel I'd take longfangs with plasma cannons over helblasters every time.

hobojebus wrote:
I'm not planning to add any unless they get a decent melee unit I don't see the point, hel I'd take longfangs with plasma cannons over helblasters every time.

I run both Hellblasters and Plasma Fangs and burn everything I can see.

Seriously, Wolves are looking decent in 8th and if you do not like Primaris Marines, there is no need to run them. I only chucked in Hellblasters because I got a squad in the DM box and I thought they would work better stomping up the field with Bjorn to provide rerolls than they would in my BA army.

GW have made a great effort to slot the Primaris marines into new niches to avoid obsoleting any existing Marine units. For this reason, I think that regular marines are safe at least for the duration of 8th edition.

Silver144 wrote:
Just curioius, isn't Fenris was officially burned by TS (and then finished by inqusition), and planet's soul was drained by Magnus's silver towers to make Sorcerers planet reappear in real space?

I guess there is no place to take new recruits and the primaris reinforcements are sent from Mars.

I think it was one of the sister planets called Midgardia or something that was burned by the Tsons and destroyed. Fenris didn't escape unscathed though, apparently Grimnar had to put down a lot of the fenrisian people due to witnessing the daemons and the wulfen curse.

Space Wolves can take any of the Primaris units, but that doesn't mean they have to. I would imagine some of the Wolf Lords will refuse to accept this new technology, being suspicious of many things. If you are happy with your Space Wolves army, I see no reason to get rid of them.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

Silver144 wrote:
Just curioius, isn't Fenris was officially burned by TS (and then finished by inqusition), and planet's soul was drained by Magnus's silver towers to make Sorcerers planet reappear in real space?

I guess there is no place to take new recruits and the primaris reinforcements are sent from Mars.

I think it was one of the sister planets called Midgardia or something that was burned by the Tsons and destroyed. Fenris didn't escape unscathed though, apparently Grimnar had to put down a lot of the fenrisian people due to witnessing the daemons and the wulfen curse.

Midgardia was entirely destroyed to the small pieces (Iron wolves lord die there).
Fenris was not blowed, but it's oceans was boiled, lands was shattered, and the native survivals was killed by inqusition force to prevent it's turning to deamon world.

Last I heard about the Space Wolves and Primaris Marines in the fluff the Wolves had sent at least one thousand of them out as a "Successor chapter" called the Wolf Spear on the grounds that their geneseeds might not be tied to Fenris like the Wolves' current geneseed is, haven't been able to track down where I read it though so it might not be a canon piece.

On the board the Primaris Marines just don't really fit in any roll for my army that can't be better and cheaper filled by another unit.
To me Primaris Marines make great character models but not much else.

Pretty much everyone got successor chapters _and_ reinforcements out of the primaris.


That said, primaris are amazingly mediocre, so don't matter. If you don't want them in your army, don't take them. No need for a hipster fit and summarily throw everything you've got out just because they exist.

the best way to look at Primaris Marines is that they're simply a new unit. you no more have to have them then you have to have Wulfen in your army, just for example. they're simply another option. take what you like. if you don't like most of them but the new dreadnought strikes you as "... man! if I take these spare bits I have to wolf it out this is gonna look amazing!" then do that.

like with anything 40k, play what you think is cool.

zerosignal wrote:
I think it sucks, so I won't be buying any.

Vote with your wallet.

This.
Do both.
Buy into deathkorps bit by bit anyways.
Preferably get those second hand.

Get what you think is most awesome. Rule of cool