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Take a gander at this Character abuse list.

List 1: 1999

Vanguard 1: 775

HQ: 250
Saint Celestine
Geminie Superia

Elite 1: 85
Cullexus Assassin:

Elite 2: 85
Cullexus Assassin:

Elite 3: 85
Cullexus Assassin:

Elite 4: 90
Vindicare Assassin

Elite 5: 90
Vindicare Assassin

Elite 6: 90
Vindicare Assassin


Vanguard 2: 632

HQ: 212
Iron Hands Chaplin Dreadnought
Twin Lascannon:
Storm Bolter:
Warlord:
Relic: Armor Indomitus
Warlord Trait: Merciless Logic

Elite 1: 70
Eversor Assassin:

Elite 2: 70
Eversor Assassin:

Elite 3: 70
Eversor Assassin:

Elite 4: 70
Eversor Assassin:

Elite 5: 70
Eversor Assassin: 70

Elite 6: 70
Eversor Assassin:


Vanguard 3: 592

HQ: 212
Salamander Chaplin Dreadnought
Twin Lascannon:
Storm Bolter:
Relic: Salamander Mantle 1 CP (Unsure if this works or not)

Elite 1: 80
Callidus Assassin

Elite 2: 80
Callidus Assassin

Elite 3: 80
Callidus Assassin

Elite 4: 70
Eversor Assassin:

Elite 5: 70
Eversor Assassin:


With everything in the list being characters by keeping the Cullexus out in front, This allows the Cullexus to absorb a tremendous amount of firepower in the first rounds by forces my opponent to only hit on 6s. After they go down the character rules force my opponent to split his fire to the closest enemy model and can make him unable to fire if the closest enemy character is in combat. The Chaplin Dreads as HQ give me a bit of anti-tank capability while still being characters to prevent being singled out. Eversors Melta bombs give a bit more anti-tank power but is more limited. I feel should probably try to fit in 1 more Cullexus Assasin but am unsure what to cut. If am correct the Warlord Traits and Relics only require a Space Marine Warlord and not a complete space marine detachment.

You have dis many assassins

Yes Yes I do.

I saw a similar list at ATC that did very well. For this list to work you probably need a few more Culexuses

Suggestions on what to cut? Think that the Vindicares are worth taking? They would be my most likely cut.

Vindicare i think 1-3 is relevant to blow up key buff annoyances. Rest need to be a healthy mix of eversor and cullexus + 1 cadillus.

Khadorstompy wrote:
Yes Yes I do.

This is funny!

Love the list BTW.

Dark Reapers and Flyers will give you a bit of trouble, but otherwise you've a pretty solid plan to work from.

Good Luck!

I had a buddy who played an assassin heavy list at an event and it ended up being super annoying to deal with due to targeting. You just make sure the Culexus is the closest model and then all their shooting has to go into that.

 pretre wrote:
I had a buddy who played an assassin heavy list at an event and it ended up being super annoying to deal with due to targeting. You just make sure the Culexus is the closest model and then all their shooting has to go into that.

Dark Reapers always hit on 3+, and flyers just move past the Culexus to whatever they want to target.

Hence why these units might be problematic.

The list would still be interesting to face though.

Yeah, since this was a casual event she actually removed the targeting restriction because it became very frustrating for opponents to play against. I imagine that would be something to capitalize on.

PandatheWarrior wrote:
Vindicare i think 1-3 is relevant to blow up key buff annoyances. Rest need to be a healthy mix of eversor and cullexus + 1 cadillus.

So would you recommend drop to 1 calidus and replacing the other 2 with 1 eversor and 1 Cullexus? Or droping just 1 vindicare for 1 Cullexus?

For Dark reapers not much I can do except just eat it. For flyers if they are spamming then I try to table their on the field units with my dude in Reserve as best I can and whatever is left on the field. If they only have a flyer or 2 well if I understand the rules correctly they have to declare all their targets at the start of the shooting so a storm raven with all its guns can still only take out a single model. Also another reason I'm running the Cadillus is there shooting gives them some anti-vehicle capability given they deal mortal wounds.

I played the assassin army too, but people told me it's not fun to play against. I had 32 units at 2000 points, so I could deepstrike all my assassins.

My list was the following
Vanguard detachment:
2x Company commander + boltguns
Astropath + laspistol
Commissar
4x callidus assassins
2x conscripts 40 each
2x HWTs mortar, mortar, lascannon

Vanguard detachment
2x company commanders + boltguns
2x culexus assassin
3x vindicare assassin
1x eversor assassin
2x HWTs mortar, mortar, lascannon

Vanguard detachment
2x primaris psykers
6x eversor assassins
HWT mortar, heavy bolter, lascannon
HWT heavy bolter, heavy bolter, lascannon

Hmm different concept from mine I see. Yours leaves a bit more available to be targeted in the HWTs and Conscripts.

What I found against my list is the opponent very much tries to limited the deepstrikes with their placement. I really like being able to place the culexus and vindicares on objectives. If the opponent turtles I can just wait to play the callidus and eversors, however eversors as you probably know are really good at taking out hordes as well as backline units. Do to calling 16 drops of assassins the opponent often places his entire army before I have to place a single model which is nice for heavy weapons teams placement. The culexus plus 3 pyskers tend to beat any other pysker roll offs besides facing weird boys.

Even with 6 lascannons that reroll 1s to hit, I definitely struggle vs many vehicles and have to use callidus and primaris pyskers to do mortal wounds to them. I'm guessing your list will struggle vs lots of vehicles too.

Yours is definitely better at the whole target allocation than my list. I just imagine it being an old wedge formation from 3rd edition running down the field to the opponents, but if you lose your only attack the closest character bonus you kinda lose the points of your list.

I played the most recent narrative battle imperium vs chaos. Do to it being kill points I had to table the chaos player which I managed on turn 4.

Short Battle Report vs Space wolves. Victory on turn 3 (Conceded) Only thing he Had left was a Razorback with 1 wound remained and a Storm Eagle with 12 remaining.

My losses where 1 Chaplain Dread, 1 Culuxes, 1 Eversor, 1 Callidus.

His. Ulrik the Slayer, 9 man Wulfen, Predator, Bjorn, 5 man Thunderwolf Calvary, 6 man blood claws.

I was rolling WAY above average on saves.

I try to put up a full Battle Report later.

How are you modeling all the assassins? At retail thats something like $540 usd. Even on ebay the old metal ones run about 20 per unless you get supremely lucky. Genuinely curious because I've been wanting to add more assassins but the cost is just too prohibitive.

The assassin board game that comes with all 4 types and a bunch of chaos is the cheapest way while getting gw actual assassins. I bought a second box had one beforehand. I had 2 callidus and 1 vindicare before that from a while back. So I made 5 eversors using Cadian infantry, skitarri pistols a power does and a lightning claw then made them look like a juicer with a drug harness

Khadorstompy wrote:
Short Battle Report vs Space wolves. Victory on turn 3 (Conceded) Only thing he Had left was a Razorback with 1 wound remained and a Storm Eagle with 12 remaining.

My losses where 1 Chaplain Dread, 1 Culuxes, 1 Eversor, 1 Callidus.

His. Ulrik the Slayer, 9 man Wulfen, Predator, Bjorn, 5 man Thunderwolf Calvary, 6 man blood claws.

I was rolling WAY above average on saves.

I try to put up a full Battle Report later.

I'd be interested to see how this kind of list will do against mass obsec units, or an army that has a fair amount of high impact deep-strike and/or flamers.

RogueApiary wrote:
How are you modeling all the assassins? At retail thats something like $540 usd. Even on ebay the old metal ones run about 20 per unless you get supremely lucky. Genuinely curious because I've been wanting to add more assassins but the cost is just too prohibitive.

Honestly I have gotten insanely lucky with picking up the old finecast ones and from people that just don't want them any more. Just the other day I picked up a Callidus, Cullexus, and Eversor from the new set for $10. Not $10 each but $10 for all 3. I have also been able to get a number of the older non-metal ones for around $3-5. This has honestly been one of the cheapest armies I have built.


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Kdash wrote:

Khadorstompy wrote:
Short Battle Report vs Space wolves. Victory on turn 3 (Conceded) Only thing he Had left was a Razorback with 1 wound remained and a Storm Eagle with 12 remaining.

My losses where 1 Chaplain Dread, 1 Culuxes, 1 Eversor, 1 Callidus.

His. Ulrik the Slayer, 9 man Wulfen, Predator, Bjorn, 5 man Thunderwolf Calvary, 6 man blood claws.

I was rolling WAY above average on saves.

I try to put up a full Battle Report later.

I'd be interested to see how this kind of list will do against mass obsec units, or an army that has a fair amount of high impact deep-strike and/or flamers.

Eh I toss the eversors at most hordes and flamers given they usually make a charge from over 9 away and with 4 pistol shots and 8 attacks Hitting on 2s and rerolling wounds they can do quite a bit of work. I usually have the Culxes around the edges of my force so deep strikes still have to target them or the Vindicares. And Vindicares are almost as good with a -2 to hit in cover. I guess the worst thing for me to deal with would be a high save unit with flamers as that is typically what I want to through the Culuxes at. The Eversors though imo are the really powerhouses.