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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/07 20:57:46
Subject: Agis Defense line - worth it for AM?
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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I'm building my first 2k list as an Astra Militarium list focusing on vehicles and infantry (I'm certain noone is surprised there). I've seen a box for the Agis defense line at my FLGS and was wondering if deploying it in my list would be a good idea. Being guaranteed cover behind the line seems perfect, but 75pts is a couple squads of infantry - is it really worth it?
Anyone with experience have an opnion on this item?
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Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
https://www.victorwardbooks.com/ Home of Dark Days series |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/07 21:15:26
Subject: Re:Agis Defense line - worth it for AM?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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It seems like it would be worth it for Heavy Weapon Teams and Veterans, but not worth it for regular Guard and Conscripts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/07 23:25:17
Subject: Agis Defense line - worth it for AM?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Used to be, can't say it is anymore.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/07 23:26:36
Subject: Agis Defense line - worth it for AM?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Buy it for some heavy weapons teams and access to an anti-flier turret maybe. HWTs need all the help they can get, survivability-wise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 14:37:45
Subject: Agis Defense line - worth it for AM?
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Is there a reason it's more useful for HWTs than standard infantry? The benefit would be the same for both right? Is it a range thing?
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Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
https://www.victorwardbooks.com/ Home of Dark Days series |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 18:04:16
Subject: Agis Defense line - worth it for AM?
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Implacable Black Templar Initiate
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ChargerIIC wrote:Is there a reason it's more useful for HWTs than standard infantry? The benefit would be the same for both right? Is it a range thing?
Because HWT can usually hit all the targets they need to from where you deploy them, and thus, can stay behind the ADL the whole game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 18:58:53
Subject: Agis Defense line - worth it for AM?
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Lord of the Fleet
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The problem with HWT and the ADL is that they can't see over it very reliably.
Specifically, they can see over the lower part of the wall but the vision slots are slightly too high for them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 19:11:09
Subject: Re:Agis Defense line - worth it for AM?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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This edition, I'd pass on the Aegis line.
You need to be within 1" of it to gain cover from it, and it doesn't provide shelter for Vehicles. You armorsaves are also crap to begin with, and aren't good with it, so I'd just pass on it and buy more Conscripts.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/08/08 19:12:28
Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 19:58:27
Subject: Agis Defense line - worth it for AM?
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Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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I would say no seeing as cover only applies if the entire model is with in the cover it's really hard to fit the entire guard blob behind that little wall.
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To many unpainted models to count. |
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