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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 15:04:13
Subject: Can someone help create a Iron Hands 1000 point list?
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I am at a loss on how to build a list for Iron Hands that take advantage of the 6+ FNP rule, and includes a strong reactionary element (Deploying at the end of movement phase stuff). Any help is appreciated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 18:10:00
Subject: Can someone help create a Iron Hands 1000 point list?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Im in the prosses of making my first IH army myself but this is my first steps into 40k so i cant realy help you but i will share my toughts.
Personly i would not put a primary fokus on the 6+ save. The odds of rolling it is very low but had it been 5+ save it would have been a different matter.
Allso it dont apply to vehicles!, but the venrable dread has a 6+fnp save built into it as defualt. (allso by the lore the IH loves dreads)
I think that multiwounds models would be the best bet to try and take some advantage from the 6+ save so that means termis.
In that sence the start collecting SM box is quite nice as it gives you a termi hq, 2 5man troops and a venreable dread.
Atlest that is the route i took, but then again i aim to play only casualy and as mutch as possible whit power points.
Now i leave it to the 40k pros to give you a proper reply.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 18:26:55
Subject: Re:Can someone help create a Iron Hands 1000 point list?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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I have no idea, really.
Maybe something with a Leviathan Dreadnought,and Razorbacks? Local SM players seem to run things like that.
How does:
Captain, Axe of Medusa, Combi-Plasma
Lieutenant, Power Axe, Combi-Plasma
Hellblasters
Hellblasters
Relic Leviathan Dreadnought, 2x Stormcannon Array
Razorback, Assault Cannon, Storm Bolter, H-K Missile
Razorback, Assault Cannon, Storm Bolter, H-K Missile
sound?
Dreadnoughts benefit from CT's right? That's something that could definitely get good use out of a 6+ FNP.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 19:30:38
Subject: Re:Can someone help create a Iron Hands 1000 point list?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I was under the impression from the chapter fokus on gws site that they dont get it.
"While Chapter Tactics don’t usually apply to Vehicles, Iron Hands armies will be able to take full advantage of their chapter armoury thanks to Stratagems"
If im wrong then im sorry for typing BS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 20:38:03
Subject: Re:Can someone help create a Iron Hands 1000 point list?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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FrozenDwarf wrote:
I was under the impression from the chapter fokus on gws site that they dont get it.
"While Chapter Tactics don’t usually apply to Vehicles, Iron Hands armies will be able to take full advantage of their chapter armoury thanks to Stratagems"
If im wrong then im sorry for typing BS.
IIRC, CT's affect INFANTRY, BIKES, and DREADNOUGHTS.
I think the big 14 wound Leviathan Dreadnought is a good thing to get the Iron Hands CT on.
I actually quite like the look of the list I posited. I'm not sold on Hellblasters as antitank though.
Maybe
Captain, Axe of Medusa, Combi-Plasma
Lieutenant, Power Sword, COmbi-Plasma
Relic Leviathan Dreadnought, 2x Stormcannon Array
Devastators, 4x Lascannon
Devastators, 4x Lascannon
Razorback, Assault Cannon, Storm Bolter, H-K Missile
Razorback, Assault Cannon, Storm Bolter, H-K Missile
would be better, since the list doesn't actually want to get close enough for the Hellblasters to be in Rapid-Fire range.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 21:10:11
Subject: Can someone help create a Iron Hands 1000 point list?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Keep in mind the FNP rules for the Venerable Dreadnoughts and the Iron Hands are separate. So they benefit from both. This was also confirmed by GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/08 22:59:48
Subject: Re:Can someone help create a Iron Hands 1000 point list?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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FrozenDwarf wrote:
I was under the impression from the chapter fokus on gws site that they dont get it.
"While Chapter Tactics don’t usually apply to Vehicles, Iron Hands armies will be able to take full advantage of their chapter armoury thanks to Stratagems"
If im wrong then im sorry for typing BS.
They were referring to the way the IH stratagem can effect vehicles like razorbacks etc. Dreadnoughts do get to use the 6+.
The upside and downside of the IH chapter tactic is you don't have to / can't really build an army around it. The most you can do is:
1. Take marines, bikes, and/or dreadnoughts, as all of these are more durable than other chapter's units. This seems like the main thing to me.
2. Give a guy a sweet power axe relic
3. Take at least 1 vehicle that has a heavy weapon, but doesn't have power of the machine spirit.
4. Enjoy not having any named characters to complicate things
5. Have a Warlord that has exploding 6s
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