Force Weapon vs Power Fist on Sorcerer

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**OxyD**

The new SM Codex cut prices for the Power Fist to only 12 points. I expect the same of CSM Codex coming this weekend. Sorcerer is allowed to take any melee weapon instead of his Force Weapon. Are there any advantages to keep Force Weapon over taking PF for the same price?

Power Fist 12 pts, S x2, AP -3, D D3, -1 to hit
Force Sword 12 pts, S U, AP -3, D D3
Force Axe 16 pts, S +1, AP -2, D D3

**BlackTalos**

I think that your question is in the wrong Forum.

You Make Da Call is for :
Want to discuss 40k rules interpretations? This is the place.

I think this belongs in the Tactics Forum.
Or is your post hiding a question about a Rule that you do not understand?

**Nightlord1987**

Not take force?

I dunno, I've always been a stock equipment kinda list builder.

I guess the only big downside to the fist would be the - 1 to hit. Currently only Lords with a 2+ reroll 1s are decent enough to swing the fist around IMO.

**koooaei**

Go with the force fist

**Slayer-Fan123**

Main advantage is that you aren't taking the -1 to hit on a model that's already 3+ to hit.

**Mandragola**

I think you've got a point. The fist is going to be so much better at wounding nearly all targets that it's better to live with the -1 to hit.

That's not very cool though, is it? Fists should probably have a separate cost for characters. Right now I think they're a bit of a no-brainer.

**Karhedron**

It is not just characters that have this problem. Blood Angel Sanguinary Guard can take Power Fists instead of their signature Encarmine weapons. At the moment they still cost them 20 points as they have to use the Index list but if the points cost gets ported in Chapter Approved or the BA codex comes out soon, there will be the same problem but on the level of an entire squad. It is even more exaggerated for SG as they can reroll all failed Hit rolls if they are close to the Warlord meaning that the -1 to hit is even less relevant.